Hello all,
I need a Help.
Is it possible to build a bot that scalp the correct score.
For example if a game start, it start always 0-0.
If the game goes in Play the first things the bot place a back bet and if the back bet was matched, he place a lay bet with one tick profit.
After this profit he hedge, to win money.
After this, the bot start again the same routine. And this goes so long after a gool falls and the bot stop trading or best case the game end 0-0.
I think is possible to make a fine profit with tick trading, i think most of the time after a goal fall when the back bet is matched but the lay bet was not yet matched the bot have most of time win the initial stake.
It was very appreciate if it is possible and if anyone can help me create this bot.
P.S sorry for my worse englsih
Best Regards.
Porto
Correct Score Scalping BOT !
here you go Porto.
Just a short comment. You would need this to trigger at least 25 times approx to recover your back stake.
no responsiblity accepted or warranty given that this file will operate as you or anyone else intends.
test in practice mode first.
Just a short comment. You would need this to trigger at least 25 times approx to recover your back stake.
no responsiblity accepted or warranty given that this file will operate as you or anyone else intends.
test in practice mode first.
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No no no no no
You will lose I promise you. A goal takes you stake as Gazuty points out. With the 2.5 goals market for have 2 more chances. Or you can get out without a total loss.
A better alternative is to profile the game using a the incredible amount of stats that are available today. (I use Betformpro,com pre play tool for profiling matches. You can get a 28 day free trial. The site is run by Danny Jaques & Pete Nordsted who wrote Mastering Betfair and The Premier League Handbook. These guys as stats junkies.)
The way to profit from this is find a game where an early goal is not likely. back under 2.5 goals and trigger a green up at a set amount of minutes. This may be 6/7/8/9/10 or even 15 if the profile fits the bill). Certain teams are slow starters, others not so.
It's better to watch the game live to get the best out of a strategy like this, but you can automate this to good effect with profiling.
You will lose I promise you. A goal takes you stake as Gazuty points out. With the 2.5 goals market for have 2 more chances. Or you can get out without a total loss.
A better alternative is to profile the game using a the incredible amount of stats that are available today. (I use Betformpro,com pre play tool for profiling matches. You can get a 28 day free trial. The site is run by Danny Jaques & Pete Nordsted who wrote Mastering Betfair and The Premier League Handbook. These guys as stats junkies.)
The way to profit from this is find a game where an early goal is not likely. back under 2.5 goals and trigger a green up at a set amount of minutes. This may be 6/7/8/9/10 or even 15 if the profile fits the bill). Certain teams are slow starters, others not so.
It's better to watch the game live to get the best out of a strategy like this, but you can automate this to good effect with profiling.
On high liquidity matches (I used it a lot in the world cup)..I had lay bets sitting on the 0-0, placed well in advance of the start of the match.
I had to track it before Kick Off and sometimes had to scratch some..
As the match kicked off, quite often my bet would get taken and there was still a 4/5 figure amount behind me so I could get out if needed. I found that I could get maybe 10 mins before I had to scratch for £0, but if an early goal was scored you were in profit..
The reason I stopped doing it, was the 0-0 is often high odds, so if you had 500 on the lay side you were facing a £5k Liability and what used to worry me was betfair going down and not being able to get out
I still use this technique (as I'm sure many others do too), but not on the correct score and often pre kick off as the price drifts to meet my bets..
I had to track it before Kick Off and sometimes had to scratch some..
As the match kicked off, quite often my bet would get taken and there was still a 4/5 figure amount behind me so I could get out if needed. I found that I could get maybe 10 mins before I had to scratch for £0, but if an early goal was scored you were in profit..
The reason I stopped doing it, was the 0-0 is often high odds, so if you had 500 on the lay side you were facing a £5k Liability and what used to worry me was betfair going down and not being able to get out
I still use this technique (as I'm sure many others do too), but not on the correct score and often pre kick off as the price drifts to meet my bets..
Thanks all for the comments.
@Gazuty
Many thanks for the Bot.
Well, is possible that every back bet just enter every 30 sec. and not all in the same time ?
Because by this bot all 4 Bets enter simultaneous.
Another problem that I have tested, he put the back on the best price, but in the moment where he put this, the price fall in this just moment and the bet will stay all the time and the bot don't cancel it.
This means the bot don´t work more after this bet is matched, but when the price fall this bet will never matched.
Maybe a extra rule, when a back bet is not matched after maybe 60 sec he will cancel this bet and start again with a new back bet, with a best price.
Another question is it possible that this Bot don´t Hedge all results but just the two next possible results ?
After 0-0 we can just have 1-0 or 0-1.
And thanks all for the warning.
I see the simple beginning rule is horrible, i have tested today In Live matches, but we can all together bring this bot to a step higher and in the end every one can goes his way.
Best Regards
Porto
@Gazuty
Many thanks for the Bot.
Well, is possible that every back bet just enter every 30 sec. and not all in the same time ?
Because by this bot all 4 Bets enter simultaneous.
Another problem that I have tested, he put the back on the best price, but in the moment where he put this, the price fall in this just moment and the bet will stay all the time and the bot don't cancel it.
This means the bot don´t work more after this bet is matched, but when the price fall this bet will never matched.
Maybe a extra rule, when a back bet is not matched after maybe 60 sec he will cancel this bet and start again with a new back bet, with a best price.
Another question is it possible that this Bot don´t Hedge all results but just the two next possible results ?
After 0-0 we can just have 1-0 or 0-1.
And thanks all for the warning.
I see the simple beginning rule is horrible, i have tested today In Live matches, but we can all together bring this bot to a step higher and in the end every one can goes his way.
Best Regards
Porto
Porto you can make all your desired tweaks very easily. That's the beauty of automation. If you are serious, invest the time to learn.
If you run your bot live and not in practice mode you will certainly be a contrarian. I'd stick to practice for a while and you have received some info from very experienced posters, but as you say, each to their own.
If you run your bot live and not in practice mode you will certainly be a contrarian. I'd stick to practice for a while and you have received some info from very experienced posters, but as you say, each to their own.
3 professional traders have told you this strategy will not work in the long term. Please tell me you are not ignoring our advice?
Do you think we put it up because you have had a great idea we didn't think of first so want to rubbish it?
Just saying......
Do you think we put it up because you have had a great idea we didn't think of first so want to rubbish it?
Just saying......
Hello gazuty,
well I have read and i think i can resolve this.
With the 30 sec, i think is in in General and put 30 sec. before rearming. But strange i dont do well.
I think with the open bet is possible to resolve with the place fill or kill bet after 15 sec ? He dont lose his ordeR ?
Well with the the bot just Hedge the next 2 results and not all, i dont found no solution and have no idee how i can realised that.
Can you pls help me ?
@Mugsgame,
many thanks and to be sure I don't ignore the professional trader and also you advise.
But I will test it and maybe is possible to find a way to make profit, maybe I can see something very simple that no body have see and just think in very complex startles.
And again I'm very grateful for any warning.
In my country we say, the good man tell you the true and often this true is not beauty full.
Best Regards.
well I have read and i think i can resolve this.
With the 30 sec, i think is in in General and put 30 sec. before rearming. But strange i dont do well.
I think with the open bet is possible to resolve with the place fill or kill bet after 15 sec ? He dont lose his ordeR ?
Well with the the bot just Hedge the next 2 results and not all, i dont found no solution and have no idee how i can realised that.
Can you pls help me ?
@Mugsgame,
many thanks and to be sure I don't ignore the professional trader and also you advise.
But I will test it and maybe is possible to find a way to make profit, maybe I can see something very simple that no body have see and just think in very complex startles.
And again I'm very grateful for any warning.
In my country we say, the good man tell you the true and often this true is not beauty full.
Best Regards.
Porto,
I'm on holidays and while I find it therapeutic to build bots, I'd think I'd better not do anymore work on yours because mugsgame will probably classify me as totally irresponsible if I arm your strategy any further.
As Mugsy has said, three full time professionals, all pc payers, have counselled you against this strategy. Unless you've back tested this and are supremely confident, you're best to file this in the list of avoided losses.
I'm on holidays and while I find it therapeutic to build bots, I'd think I'd better not do anymore work on yours because mugsgame will probably classify me as totally irresponsible if I arm your strategy any further.
As Mugsy has said, three full time professionals, all pc payers, have counselled you against this strategy. Unless you've back tested this and are supremely confident, you're best to file this in the list of avoided losses.
gazuty
Hey if he wants you to help him I have absolutely no problem. he says he understands but thinks he knows better. It's a free world and he has been alerted to the fact it will not work the way he thinks it will.
That's not to say with some adjustments it could work.
My point is that scalping 0-0 using the settings he wants it is impossible to win. The amount of successful trades required to cover the inevitable loser insures he will lose. Any one with more than 1 brain cell should be able to work that out.
Hey if he wants you to help him I have absolutely no problem. he says he understands but thinks he knows better. It's a free world and he has been alerted to the fact it will not work the way he thinks it will.
That's not to say with some adjustments it could work.
My point is that scalping 0-0 using the settings he wants it is impossible to win. The amount of successful trades required to cover the inevitable loser insures he will lose. Any one with more than 1 brain cell should be able to work that out.
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He's trying to 'botify' one of the most popular tactics amongst Paulo Rebelo forum users.
In your country people also say 'those who warn you are your friends'
You can make it 4 now and counting.
In your country people also say 'those who warn you are your friends'
You can make it 4 now and counting.
Hello gazuty,
there are just good people that will warn, I know this simple strategy will bring to lose but i will evaluate this strategy.
I im a very responsible person, I think nobody will lose.
I think nobody will offending but just warn me and that's is ok. You was never irresponsible.
Plz help me to develop this, how you can see i have read about that and give some idees how i can solve, just need you suport.
the only thing is what i cant do is how i make to hedge just the next two results 1-0 and 0-1 and not hedge all results how the bot makes now.
Best Regards.
Porto007
there are just good people that will warn, I know this simple strategy will bring to lose but i will evaluate this strategy.
I im a very responsible person, I think nobody will lose.
I think nobody will offending but just warn me and that's is ok. You was never irresponsible.
Plz help me to develop this, how you can see i have read about that and give some idees how i can solve, just need you suport.
the only thing is what i cant do is how i make to hedge just the next two results 1-0 and 0-1 and not hedge all results how the bot makes now.
Best Regards.
Porto007