Twofold question. I've been playing about with automation for the last week with various methods and I've still to find one that works reliably. I thought I'd hit one, but, after 15 winning races, the next day not only were there several losing events, but also the exact same rules didn't kick in as they had done and some markets weren't greened out, yet most were.
Both of these are issues of equal importance, but the second isn't as important unless the winning formula is found. The big question, then, is does automation actually work and produce profits and, if so, would anyone like to point me towards some successful tips/rules?
Profit and bugs
There are less opportunities these days than in previous years, you really have to work hard to find new automation strategies. No one will provide you with a bullet proof strategy
My advice would be read Peter's blog entries, think of a strategy; hone and refine it and THEN implement it via automation.
The other point is; you will never find one that you simply set and forgot. they all need modifying over time...
My advice would be read Peter's blog entries, think of a strategy; hone and refine it and THEN implement it via automation.
The other point is; you will never find one that you simply set and forgot. they all need modifying over time...
Some interesting stuff in the blog, but most of it is fairly generic, rather than specific to the mechanics of actually how to make a profit. I'm trialling the O/U2.5 method, which is called the In-Out method elsewhere. I did it manually and it was generally profitable so let's see how automating it works.
As an aside, any idea why the football automation with the details exactly as described in the blog isn't triggering? The first bet did, but the rest haven't.
As an aside, any idea why the football automation with the details exactly as described in the blog isn't triggering? The first bet did, but the rest haven't.
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maycontainnuts
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Trading is like anything else, the more work you put in the more you get out. Nobody will gift you a fully detailed, carefully thought out and test strategy. But there are plenty of clues here and on the blog. But you need to find your own niche.
I would, if I had one, but I suppose not everyone is like me. I've put plenty of time into various methods over the last decade plus and still not got much out of it.maycontainnuts wrote:Trading is like anything else, the more work you put in the more you get out. Nobody will gift you a fully detailed, carefully thought out and test strategy.
Am I also right in thinking that automation can only work on one market at a time? By that I mean if there are ten football games kicking off at the same time, it will only open the first window and bet on that? That would explain some of the issues I've been having.
Are you using automation within guardian? Gaurdian can cycle through many markets at a time. Of course if too many markets are loaded in it might be taking a while to cycle through them all.Injebreck wrote:Am I also right in thinking that automation can only work on one market at a time? By that I mean if there are ten football games kicking off at the same time, it will only open the first window and bet on that? That would explain some of the issues I've been having.
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Will Sharpe
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I could say RTFM but I don't want to come across as being to harsh so I've copied some from it
Advanced Settings
Guardian will normally cycle through all markets loaded into it at the refresh rate set. For example, if you have 20 markets loaded and the Guardian refresh rate is 1 second, it will take 20 seconds to cycle through all markets and update the data.
If you wish to only monitor markets that are close to the off then you can choose to do so here. Click on ‘Restrict refresh’ and Guardian will then only monitor the markets whose start times are within the window specified. The default setting is for Guardian to only refresh the markets that are within 20 minutes of starting until 15 minutes after. These times are taken from the advertised start time on Betfair. If a meeting is delayed then you will need to adjust the start times accordingly within Guardian.
When used in conjunction with the ‘Auto-bind’ facility mentioned previously, Guardian will only bind a market to your Excel spreadsheet when it has a start time within ‘Restricted refresh’ time window.
Advanced Settings
Guardian will normally cycle through all markets loaded into it at the refresh rate set. For example, if you have 20 markets loaded and the Guardian refresh rate is 1 second, it will take 20 seconds to cycle through all markets and update the data.
If you wish to only monitor markets that are close to the off then you can choose to do so here. Click on ‘Restrict refresh’ and Guardian will then only monitor the markets whose start times are within the window specified. The default setting is for Guardian to only refresh the markets that are within 20 minutes of starting until 15 minutes after. These times are taken from the advertised start time on Betfair. If a meeting is delayed then you will need to adjust the start times accordingly within Guardian.
When used in conjunction with the ‘Auto-bind’ facility mentioned previously, Guardian will only bind a market to your Excel spreadsheet when it has a start time within ‘Restricted refresh’ time window.