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buyshirts
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Does anybody know a good man to talk to about find out more about them?
Cheers
dogform
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buyshirts wrote:Does anybody know a good man to talk to about find out more about them?
Cheers
What do you want to know?

1. Internet Feed: Perform (Progressive Sports Media), £6000 per month for 4 or 5 online logins covering a range of sports, one year subscription as minimum term. debatable claim as supposedly the fastest there is, moderate picture quality.

2. Internet Feed: Betfair/Betdaq video players, place bet on event to view online player, moderate video quality and prone to video issues such as juddering and lag. Cheap option, pictures with some delay.

3. Satellite Feed: Encrypted raw satellite feeds, need good quality motorised satellite kit to receive pictures, brand new cost of kit in the region of £1000. Also need the unscrambling codes to clear the pictures. High quality pictures, minimal delay, covering a range of sports including horse racing.

That just about sums it up.
buyshirts
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Cheers i have sent you a private message
mcfc1981
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what sort of delay is there with perform and raw sat feeds from live?????? cheers
dogform
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mcfc1981 wrote:what sort of delay is there with perform and raw sat feeds from live?????? cheers
I am not sure how far the sat feeds are behind true live as it is not easy to measure. To accurately measure this you would need to be able to view true live at the venue and have sat feed equipment setup at that location to get a comparison. I suppose if you had access to a house overlooking the venue with visibility of the true live event you could accurately measure it.

What can be measured is the time lag between various "off track" viewing options, for this, I have some recently measured figures for horse racing and snooker.

The raw sat feeds for horse racing are approximately 6.5 seconds ahead of ATR, 2.5 seconds ahead of bookmakers SIS and between 1.1 seconds and 1.9 seconds ahead of Betfair LV. Those are timings I have validated myself.

The timings that I measured last weekend for the world snooker championship showed the raw sat feeds to be 7.5 seconds ahead of Eurosport and 3.5 seconds ahead of BBC. For Eurosport and the BBC I used the non HD channels to measure the timings as the HD version of the channel adds additional delay.

The delay behind true live seems to vary from sport to sport and from sat feed to sat feed. On occasions, there might be several sat feeds covering the same event, each feed could have a different lag so any intending user would need to do a "between sat feeds" type comparison.


As for "Perform", I have not had the opportunity to measure how they compare to the raw sat feeds or the other viewing options. For some sports "Perform" are the actual raw sat feed uplink contractor at the venue as well as streaming the pictures directly onto the internet from the venue. There have been unsubstantiated rumours that for some of the sports where "Perform" are the raw sat feed uplink contractor they are deliberately introducing a delay into the raw sat feed uplink. The supposed motivation behind this is to preserve the edge for their £6000 per month "Watch & Trade" subscribers.

Rgds
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