Chelsea vs Bolton

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Iron
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Is it just me, or are Chelsea's odds of beating Bolton a little low at 1.33?

The Chelsea of the beginning of the season would have destroyed Bolton nine times out of ten.

But there is clearly discontent in the Chelsea ranks. And Chelsea are only 2 points in front of Bolton in the table (albeit with a game in hand). Also, Chelsea's players won't be fully rested after Monday's game.

What do you guys think?

Jeff
PeterLe
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Hi Jeff
It does seem a little low..I would trade this in a similar way that I traded the Chelsea Arsenal game last night...
I traded the draw pre kick off, 500 scalp which gave me 25 on the draw..I spread that money around and ended up 10 each on Chelsea and Arsenal and a 1 on the draw ( I didn't think this game would result in a draw).
When arsenal scored the first I scalped Chelsea using the tenner i made earlier and did the same again when arsenal scored the second and third. At that point was some like Arsenal £0, Draw:-£9 and Chelsea :£2,300 when Chelsea scored the odds dropped and I took about £40 out for a green across the card.
What I was hoping for was a second goal from Chelsea, I would have been to green up for three figs easily...great upside and almost zero downside...It doesnt always work but spectacular when it does..
If i get chance to trade the Bolton game I expect Chelsea will score first and probably win..but I'll still trade Bolton after the first goal..
Worth trying using even tiny 2 stakes??
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Peter
Iron
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Thanks Peter

I don't normally trade football matches pre-match, but it's something I'd like to be able to do.

With your scalp, did take advantage of a price movement, or offer prices either side of the book?

Jeff
PeterLe wrote:Hi Jeff

I traded the draw pre kick off, 500 scalp which gave me 25 on the draw..
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LeTiss
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Ferru123 wrote:
I don't normally trade football matches pre-match, but it's something I'd like to be able to do.
I think many traders miss out here

Pre-match football has some amazing swings, but are easier to predict than the volatile horse races

You need patience though Jeff because sometimes I've waited an hour to secure a 1 tick scalp
Iron
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Thanks Le Tiss

How soon before the off do you normally start trading?

Jeff
LeTiss 4pm wrote:
Ferru123 wrote:
I don't normally trade football matches pre-match, but it's something I'd like to be able to do.
I think many traders miss out here

Pre-match football has some amazing swings, but are easier to predict than the volatile horse races

You need patience though Jeff because sometimes I've waited an hour to secure a 1 tick scalp
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LeTiss
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There's no real guideline tbh

I've been trading since 9am on today's matches & have already caught a few movements
Iron
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Would you normally just place your orders with a stop loss, and let the market do its thing, or do you keep a constant eye on what's happening?

With a flat market like the Man U win market today, would you put orders on either side of the book, or do you only trade non-ranging markets?

Jeff
LeTiss 4pm wrote:There's no real guideline tbh

I've been trading since 9am on today's matches & have already caught a few movements
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LeTiss
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I always trade manually

I stopped using stop losses a long time ago, my experience of them is pretty negative

My tactics vary from market to market, so it's impossible to give a definitive explanation of every trade I do
PeterLe
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I tend to place a number of large orders in, out of the money in advance, and then wait till the market moves to me (let the market be your slave not your master, as some would say..)

Only thing you need to be aware of Jeff (amongst other things), is changes to the team sheet. Quite often happens with Man U, if Fergie announces that he is keeping some of his better players on the bench, then the odds on Man u will increase, if you are using largish stakes, you could do nicely out of it ..but if you are on the wrong side of it..

regards
Peter
Iron
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Thanks for the advice guys! :)

Jeff
petardo
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I closed yesterday two matches on
0£ with 10K turnout Lol.Sometimes the things going wrong way.The first market went 3 ticks of me and 4 ticks the other, but come back just few sec before kick off to the correct odds. If I wait few more seconds on both I make nice profit.Today I got few £K on Chelsea lay over 1.5.Closed nice on two ticks.Liverpool got lay over 2.5 very nice 9 ticks lol and Arsenal 3 ticks lay over 1.5,just missed round 2K when the market jump up quickli.I backed draw on Chelsea for 3 K closed pre ko 1 tick.Plus lots of smaller trades.Easy lazy day today :) I do not trade in-play.I just testing with 2£ one inplay strategy,but have not finish it yet.
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