Football trading strategies

[Kai]

Also, you do need to put your own shoes on & I accept that we all had to be shown how to tie our laces, but you're still looking for your socks mate, we dont know where your socks are either, especially when you're telling us you have 15 pairs.

Forget the socks, poor lad is still trying to find his damn feet

[jamesg46]

Also, you do need to put your own shoes on & I accept that we all had to be shown how to tie our laces, but you're still looking for your socks mate, we dont know where your socks are either, especially when you're telling us you have 15 pairs.

Forget the socks, poor lad is still trying to find his damn feet

I have to admire how bold Luke is, literally blowing up the Forum with his eagerness. I wish I would of had the balls to ask questions early on, just maybe not with the same velocity. Being scared of looking stupid is a real set back for some, maybe lack of confidence or bad grammar (such as myself)

I really do think Luke would do well now to listen to the advice that's been given, not from myself but from others including yourself. I saw a great post by Simon yesterday (the study done by Harvard) I've not yet digested it, so I'm sure Luke hasn't either, especially with 400 threads active.

I do hope we haven't put him off asking future questions, while at the same time I hope he dwells in the present a little.

[JustLukeYou]

Also, you do need to put your own shoes on & I accept that we all had to be shown how to tie our laces, but you're still looking for your socks mate, we dont know where your socks are either, especially when you're telling us you have 15 pairs.

Forget the socks, poor lad is still trying to find his damn feet

I have to admire how bold Luke is, literally blowing up the Forum with his eagerness. I wish I would of had the balls to ask questions early on, just maybe not with the same velocity. Being scared of looking stupid is a real set back for some, maybe lack of confidence or bad grammar (such as myself)

I really do think Luke would do well now to listen to the advice that's been given, not from myself but from others including yourself. I saw a great post by Simon yesterday (the study done by Harvard) I've not yet digested it, so I'm sure Luke hasn't either, especially with 400 threads active.

I do hope we haven't put him off asking future questions, while at the same time I hope he dwells in the present a little.

Hi,

I'll be honest I didn't read that article but I have read about a third of Caan Berrys book and a webinar which both helped.

For me it's steep learning curve. It is a very different mindset that gambling that takes time to adjust.

[jamesg46]

Forget the socks, poor lad is still trying to find his damn feet

I have to admire how bold Luke is, literally blowing up the Forum with his eagerness. I wish I would of had the balls to ask questions early on, just maybe not with the same velocity. Being scared of looking stupid is a real set back for some, maybe lack of confidence or bad grammar (such as myself)

I really do think Luke would do well now to listen to the advice that's been given, not from myself but from others including yourself. I saw a great post by Simon yesterday (the study done by Harvard) I've not yet digested it, so I'm sure Luke hasn't either, especially with 400 threads active.

I do hope we haven't put him off asking future questions, while at the same time I hope he dwells in the present a little.

Hi,

I'll be honest I didn't read that article but I have read about a third of Caan Berrys book and a webinar which both helped.

For me it's steep learning curve. It is a very different mindset that gambling that takes time to adjust.

Luke, I feel people may stop responding to you very soon... I've literally just come back out from reading a reply to yourself from Shaun. He broke each and every segment of your comment down and responded accordingly, to which your reply was something completely off topic. I mentioned earlier that you need to slow down and absorb what is being said. Please take notice, not just of me.. but the actual advice given from others. You're quickly burning yourself & others out of energy. These guys value time, so their responses must be worth while.

[jamesg46]

Forget the socks, poor lad is still trying to find his damn feet

I have to admire how bold Luke is, literally blowing up the Forum with his eagerness. I wish I would of had the balls to ask questions early on, just maybe not with the same velocity. Being scared of looking stupid is a real set back for some, maybe lack of confidence or bad grammar (such as myself)

I really do think Luke would do well now to listen to the advice that's been given, not from myself but from others including yourself. I saw a great post by Simon yesterday (the study done by Harvard) I've not yet digested it, so I'm sure Luke hasn't either, especially with 400 threads active.

I do hope we haven't put him off asking future questions, while at the same time I hope he dwells in the present a little.

Hi,

I'll be honest I didn't read that article but I have read about a third of Caan Berrys book and a webinar which both helped.

For me it's steep learning curve. It is a very different mindset that gambling that takes time to adjust.

Just to add to the whole mix of confusion some more, you'll do well to chuck that book in the bin or donate it to somebody who cant read, so that no harm gets done. Buy a book on Thoaism & learn to calm down a little, it will give you a good foundation to build your own thoughts upon.

[JustLukeYou]

Why should I throw in the bin?

[Kai]

I really do think Luke would do well now to listen to the advice that's been given, not from myself but from others including yourself. I saw a great post by Simon yesterday (the study done by Harvard) I've not yet digested it, so I'm sure Luke hasn't either, especially with 400 threads active.

Don't think he needs more advice, just needs time to let some of it sink in. If we're being perfectly honest these are the questions of someone who has discovered trading yesterday, and people don't have a problem with that, but treating the forum like your own personal helpdesk and demanding answers whilst calling it useless at the same time is completely out of order.

Sorry, but there's nothing there to admire for me. Even if the threads turn into a complete circus I still think there's some value for others, a good example of a bad approach if you will, or something along those lines. People aren't going to encourage such behavior, what are they honestly supposed to say to him?

"Wowza, you're a natural born trader Luke! You haven't even started trading and you're already profitable, don't let silly little things like not knowing what lay bets are or not having a Betfair account hold you down! If you keep at it then maybe one day you'll accumulate enough profit to afford a pint."

It's beyond ridiculous. People should warn him about the dangers of trading and correct any and every flaw in his trading approach. It may seem like there are 100 flaws but that's only because he is ignoring everyone, including Peter, so things get repeated 10 times. He only started watching Rebelo after I posted his 170k screenshot.

[JustLukeYou]

I really do think Luke would do well now to listen to the advice that's been given, not from myself but from others including yourself. I saw a great post by Simon yesterday (the study done by Harvard) I've not yet digested it, so I'm sure Luke hasn't either, especially with 400 threads active.

Don't think he needs more advice, just needs time to let some of it sink in. If we're being perfectly honest these are the questions of someone who has discovered trading yesterday, and people don't have a problem with that, but treating the forum like your own personal helpdesk and demanding answers whilst calling it useless at the same time is completely out of order.

Sorry, but there's nothing there to admire for me. Even if the threads turn into a complete circus I still think there's some value for others, a good example of a bad approach if you will, or something along those lines. People aren't going to encourage such behavior, what are they honestly supposed to say to him?

"Wowza, you're a natural born trader Luke! You haven't even started trading and you're already profitable, don't let silly little things like not knowing what lay bets are or not having a Betfair account hold you down! If you keep at it then maybe one day you'll accumulate enough profit to afford a pint."

It's beyond ridiculous. People should warn him about the dangers of trading and correct any and every flaw in his trading approach. It may seem like there are 100 flaws but that's only because he is ignoring everyone, including Peter, so things get repeated 10 times.

I buy a book, someone tells me I show throw it in the bin without explaining why.

[JustLukeYou]

Hi,

Can someone add a bit context with this one please as I am very surprised by what just happened. Last night I went through the form of Wrexham v Chesterfield and the only value I could see was that 25% of their matches finish at 1-1 in the first half and the odds were 8. So I backed it at 8 but after 30 minutes that had increased to 19. Chesterfield scored and the odds crashed to 5.9. To me that sounds like incredible value. Tremendous reward if you got in at 18 or close to it. Frustratingly the live feed is down so I can't watch the match but I haven't even looked at trading this market before.

Any thoughts please?

[jimibt]

I buy a book, someone tells me I show throw it in the bin without explaining why.

in all fairness, i get what you're saying and you probably are doing your best (that's the nice bit ). However, I don't agree to throw it in the bin (i think it's a pdf??).

Ok, it's being laboured here 100 tmes in many different direct and subtle ways. What you NEED to do, is create an objective list (of objectives??), track those and discount the good from the bad. What does that mean in reality??

1. Create a diary/trade sheet that allows you to record when you went in and why
2. Take the bull by the horns and not expect to be treated like a child (that means you need to engage with responses, even if you don't fully understand either the response, or your response to the response.
3. Start simple, keep t simple. This stuff isn't rocket science. If you excel at the thinking, the planning but not the execution, then ask questions that demonstrate the intimacy of that thinking. At present, you expose yourself as erratic, you need to find discipline
4. Rinse and repeat all of the above and then you'll understand #5
5. Manage your bank at ALL costs. This is your golden ticket, your calling card. If you are casual about managing your bank, any edge that you do find/exploit will be quickly lost.

I'll hold my finger in the air - I have struggled with the football markets, despite it being the one sport that i enjoy watching. If i were to think hard as to why i fail, it's probably for ALL the reasons that you have for entering trades - gut feel and wishful thinking. Rid yourself of that emotional attachment and it will allow you to trade, close and move on. If you have FOMO, you will more than likely get involved at completely the wrong time!!

Anyway - must have a look at Barry's book myself...

[JustLukeYou]

Hi,

I have set up a spreadsheet and I do record everything. I am having problems with live feeds. Bet365 often crashes and tonight it is down completely. It's all these frustrating issues I am trying to look into. For example, I didn't know some leagues have set up on YouTube until last week. My holes I dig the more information I get.

I made a profit again tonight but I backed at 8. 30 minutes into the match it was at 18 and would have made a great profit. Lots of things like this to learn.

[Derek27]

So I am looking to trade the half time score for a match tonight. On Smarkets I back all the scores but none of them have any lays. So are Smarkets but there are absolutely no Lay bets. I couldn't trade out if I wanted to. Are they just trading all the Backs against one another?

Bit late now, but it would probably have been a good idea at this point to start a new thread to avoid losing sight of the OP's question.

Look. Just please stop replying with silly comments and emoji's. It doesn't help and just detracts from any constructive discussion.

That was not a silly comment and there was no emoji in it!!

It was a genuine piece of advice and it's not fair on the OP to take over his thread with your own requests for advice.

[JustLukeYou]

Bit late now, but it would probably have been a good idea at this point to start a new thread to avoid losing sight of the OP's question.

Look. Just please stop replying with silly comments and emoji's. It doesn't help and just detracts from any constructive discussion.

That was not a silly comment and there was no emoji in it!!

It was a genuine piece of advice and it's not fair on the OP to take over his thread with your own requests for advice.

Derek, please stop. You are either leaving silly comments or trying to argue. By almeans reply but leave something constructive or useful.

[Derek27]

Why should I throw in the bin?

Here's the clue:-

...or donate it to somebody who cant read, so that no harm gets done.

[Derek27]

Look. Just please stop replying with silly comments and emoji's. It doesn't help and just detracts from any constructive discussion.

That was not a silly comment and there was no emoji in it!!

It was a genuine piece of advice and it's not fair on the OP to take over his thread with your own requests for advice.

Derek, please stop. You are either leaving silly comments or trying to argue. By almeans reply but leave something constructive or useful.

That was both, constructive and useful, it was neither a silly comment nor an attempt to argue, if you really think about it. You seem to be judging posts by the person who wrote them rather than the content. The OP has just posted:-

So, lets get back to basics,

what stratergys you guys using on Football?

and his post seems completely lost in the midst of your posts, in a thread which you've now taken over. Stop thinking about your self and what you want and think about other forum users.