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Lutruwita
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I'm finding it harder and harder to make money in-play over the past few months.
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Aarondewit wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 am
I'm finding it harder and harder to make money in-play over the past few months.
Why do you think that is?
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Aarondewit wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 am
I'm finding it harder and harder to make money in-play over the past few months.
market making in running or betting laying according to how you see the race develop?
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With two NSW meetings on there are big gaps between races if you're saving your tokens for Saturday.
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Sorry for ignorance.

What are these tokens ?

Is a UK user also restricted ? If hes just a layer, does it apply ?

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just market with back bets placed on NSW markets count, maximum 25 explained ont he turnover charge rules
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megarain wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:14 am
Sorry for ignorance.

What are these tokens ?

Is a UK user also restricted ? If hes just a layer, does it apply ?

Thx
Sorry, it's just a term I made up, not an official Betfair term, to refer to the 24 NSW markets you can trade per week without being subjected to the turnover charge. There are no similar restrictions in the UK or anywhere else. It's just Betfair's way of raising funds to pay the extortionate NSW turnover tax.
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Naffman
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Betfair still have to pay them if you trade 1 race or 100 - I've started trading it on a Saturday though, fuck it :lol:
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Thx .. just been looking for the Cup meetings.

Be interesting to see if I get a charge.
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gazuty
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One more sleep ....

Plus Breeders Cup too. Yay.
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rik wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:38 pm
Aarondewit wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 am
I'm finding it harder and harder to make money in-play over the past few months.
market making in running or betting laying according to how you see the race develop?
I make it up as I go really. A bit of whatever is presented. The 40% rate of PC soon to really make things even more dreary.

The markets are very static. Quite often a leader will jump at $5 and for no reason be stuck at $6 for most of the race and within a second or two be trading < $2. The market used to cycle a lot more, now it's more static outside Saturday.
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Aarondewit wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:24 am
rik wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:38 pm
Aarondewit wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 am
I'm finding it harder and harder to make money in-play over the past few months.
market making in running or betting laying according to how you see the race develop?
I make it up as I go really. A bit of whatever is presented. The 40% rate of PC soon to really make things even more dreary.

The markets are very static. Quite often a leader will jump at $5 and for no reason be stuck at $6 for most of the race and within a second or two be trading < $2. The market used to cycle a lot more, now it's more static outside Saturday.
Strange as you'd have thought in-play liquidity would've improved with all these trading courses in Oz they seem to be doing.

I back in-running in Qld, Tas and WA as I've noticed there's so many people ahead especially in Melbourne.
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Big spoof at the valley
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Someone backing Lord Kensington silly 20 mins out
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Cox Plate Day wagering turnover was down 12% year-on-year, continuing a trend of softer figures throughout the Spring Carnival....

Betfair has been one of the hardest hit outlets, as outlined by its Exchange Director Robert Linsley.

“The Cox Plate meeting slipped 21 per cent year-on-year; excluding the Cox Plate we saw turnover decline of 27 per cent,” said Linsley.

“The Manikato meeting saw turnover decline of 30 per cent year-on-year.

“The Winx effect can be attributed to some of the softness but the decline is still consistent with recent post- Point Of Consumption (POC) Tax trends.”
https://www.racing.com/news/2019-10-31/ ... ring-falls
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