Monitoring over / under 2.5 to blace a bet

[JustLukeYou]

Luke,
In all your posts you come over as a cocky twat and i think you have been so rude,,,,,,,
I have been on peters course , spent good money to travel from near Norwich, stay in hotel etc because i
wanted to learn,,, I was gutted and found it so hard and was out of my depth as maths and writing and spelling etc is not on my can do great list..
Where i come from it is called being thick..........
I came back and spent weeks going over the course book and watching loads of peters vids and just looking at
the markets with no trading at all......
I trade now when i feel its right and one of the best things i have learned is to scratch out of trades which works well
for me as peter says a scratch is not a loss etc........
You seem to know it all, there are loads of things i would love to ask but i dont ask alot because i dont want to piss people off,
I would love to meet up a spend good money and learn if there were any full time traders willing to spend time helping me
and i would be so thankfull but i cant help thinking you just want it all now and dont want to put the work in.
Why not start again from the basics and see how you get on, Try trap trading etc from about 12 mins out as the market is slower and
you will see more.........
You may think your smart with A LEVELS etc and can read and do maths which i cant do very well but , I KNOW HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE
and thats more to me than being a cocky twat like you have been on here,,Am sorry to jump in on someones post and hope i have not upset anyone apart from luke...
Julian.

Have to disagree that Luke is a "cocky twat".
If anything I would describe him/her as being as very focussed but perhaps lacking the empathy/charm to recruit the clever people on here.
Luke is relentless and willing to ask questions (regardless of the question making them look silly), those are great qualities for an entrepreneur,

Thank you Greenmark. This is my personal view...people do things differently. There is no right or wrong way to do things. I became self employed by being persistent and asking hundreds of questions of YouTube and Facebook. Some people may prefer to go on a course but none of this easy. Conventional gambling is so incredibly popular because it is so simple. You log onto a website, click a few buttons and you boom you have placed a bet. Is there anyway the process of setting up a stop loss could be any simpler?

Something like.."Enter the Maximum Percentage of Stake You Are Willing to Lose"

You can do something like this on Bet365 but obviously Bet365 will just kick you off if you use to successfully.

[Dabbla]

Luke try this file it should do what your asking for, if not it will point you in the right direction.
You will need to add this to a - Custom one click button
Once the button is pressed, it will fire a back at the best back price.
It will store the back book % of the selection – 20%. you can change this % if you like.
This will green out at the best LAY price once the back price % is 20% less than your back bet. It will then try to green up again after 60 seconds.
If you want to use this with guardian , create a new rule file and copy the green rule to that and delete it from the original rule file.

I have not tested it properly. So make sure your testing in practice mode.

button.baf

[JustLukeYou]

Luke try this file it should do what your asking for, if not it will point you in the right direction.
You will need to add this to a - Custom one click button
Once the button is pressed, it will fire a back at the best back price.
It will store the back book % of the selection – 20%. you can change this % if you like.
This will green out at the best LAY price once the back price % is 20% less than your back bet. It will then try to green up again after 60 seconds.
If you want to use this with guardian , create a new rule file and copy the green rule to that and delete it from the original rule file.

I have not tested it properly. So make sure your testing in practice mode.
button.baf

Cheers dude! sounds complicated lol

Can you please explain what this process does "It will then try to green up again after 60 seconds."

Let's say I put £10 on Under 5.5 goals at 1.1 and it is 3-0 at half time and the odds are now 1.2 does it wait 60 seconds to get the lowest Lay price possible once the market has settled?

I will try it tomorrow night. Need an early night tonight as I think I will be kept up all night by bloody fireworks.

[Dabbla]

It means, if the green is not matched it will (REARM) in 60 seconds and try to green up again.
You can change the rearm time to whatever you like.

The Green will trigger as soon as the back price is above the trigger price. You will probably want to add a condition called unsuspended time to the green rule, but that’s for you to experiment with.

[JustLukeYou]

It means, if the green is not matched it will (REARM) in 60 seconds and try to green up again.
You can change the rearm time to whatever you like.

The Green will trigger as soon as the back price is above the trigger price. You will probably want to add a condition called unsuspended time to the green rule, but that’s for you to experiment with.

Okay thanks, I will set it up and test on the Champions League matches this week,

It is possible to test a rule quickly. Let's say I back a game and it finished 0-0 how can I tell if I set it up properly. I would have thought it is in everyone's interest that the software is simple to use because it will attract more customers.

[Derek27]

The saga continues. I'm an impassive observer now, but even that is getting tiring. I'll take your collective call on how long you wish to persist.

It makes good light entertainment, another two pages since I left my computer - it's like catching up with the Aussie thread after you've missed a Saturday morning.

[Derek27]

Setting a stop won't prevent a loss if your strike rate on the trade in question isn't adequate Luke.

Don't forget that, all you are doing is framing a trade. You need to find a viable trade in which to deploy the strategy. It won't make money on its own if you apply it generically. Which is what I feel you may do.

This is what I was talking about when I said you need to go back to basics. Learn the fundamental's of trading before attempting to trade at all. It's the same mistake thousands have made before you. The majority of newbies just thing trading is about finding a simple strategy they can't deploy. Few bother to learn about the real fundamentals.

I understand that a stop loss is not a magic bullet but if the people who lost all their bank had a stop loss they wouldn't have lost all their bank.

If people who lost all their bank didn't bet they wouldn't have lost all their bank! Euler is saying cutting losses shouldn't be your main focus. Learning the basics, as we all keep telling you should be your highest priority.

[Derek27]

Luke is asking how to 'try' to achieve a 20% loss of his stake,

Could you not just give him a baf file that waits for a girl to be scored and then places 20% of the desired stake on a 0-0 draw - 20% loss and problem solved.

[Derek27]

Luke is asking how to 'try' to achieve a 20% loss of his stake, whether £2 stake or £100. Its not rocket science. He may well be totally wrong with his strategy, but thats his question. So why not answer him and add any caveats about it being an unwise approach.
But answer him firstly.
I've tried to, but I'm a BetAngel beginner.
I definitely feel he's being victimised.
He does have a way of communicating that attracts the ire of the 'problem-solvers' on here.
But, hey, it takes 2 to create an argument.
And Luke: you really need to immerse yourself in practice mode.
I made some mistakes that would have been horrendously expensive in live mode.

I don't know how long you've been following Luke but at least ten people on here have been going to a lot of trouble to answering his questions and give sound advice, including Peter, and Phychoff offered to answer questions - all ignored. Most people have given up taking him seriously and you can hardly blame anyone for that, other than Luke.

Regarding practice mode, I don't even know if Luke has a Betfair account, he bets on Smarkets, but if he opens one he'll quickly get restricted for excessive use of the API in practice mode. Even if he survives that he'll get restricted for sub £2 bets.

Given the above, I think this forum is remarkably non-judgemental. Nobody has told him to give up but have offered whatever help they can, even if they know it's in vain.

[greenmark]

Luke is asking how to 'try' to achieve a 20% loss of his stake,

Could you not just give him a baf file that waits for a girl to be scored and then places 20% of the desired stake on a 0-0 draw - 20% loss and problem solved.

I must be realy thick, but I have no idea what that means.
I have huge respect for you as a poster, so it must be me.

[Derek27]

Luke,
In all your posts you come over as a cocky twat and i think you have been so rude,,,,,,,
I have been on peters course , spent good money to travel from near Norwich, stay in hotel etc because i
wanted to learn,,, I was gutted and found it so hard and was out of my depth as maths and writing and spelling etc is not on my can do great list..
Where i come from it is called being thick..........
I came back and spent weeks going over the course book and watching loads of peters vids and just looking at
the markets with no trading at all......
I trade now when i feel its right and one of the best things i have learned is to scratch out of trades which works well
for me as peter says a scratch is not a loss etc........
You seem to know it all, there are loads of things i would love to ask but i dont ask alot because i dont want to piss people off,
I would love to meet up a spend good money and learn if there were any full time traders willing to spend time helping me
and i would be so thankfull but i cant help thinking you just want it all now and dont want to put the work in.
Why not start again from the basics and see how you get on, Try trap trading etc from about 12 mins out as the market is slower and
you will see more.........
You may think your smart with A LEVELS etc and can read and do maths which i cant do very well but , I KNOW HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE
and thats more to me than being a cocky twat like you have been on here,,Am sorry to jump in on someones post and hope i have not upset anyone apart from luke...
Julian.

What is trap trading? Currently I am treating some trades as a scratch. For example, Zenit were winning 1-0 and I was sure there would be one more goal because it was Zenit but as I watching the match I could see that Zenit weren't actually playing that well so I immediately traded out for a slight loss even though they did go onto score 1 more goal.

I love the way you call Luke a cocky twat - I was expecting some sort of reaction from him but he comes back with: What is trap trading? Currently I am treating some trades as a scratch. For example...

[Derek27]

Luke,
In all your posts you come over as a cocky twat and i think you have been so rude,,,,,,,
I have been on peters course , spent good money to travel from near Norwich, stay in hotel etc because i
wanted to learn,,, I was gutted and found it so hard and was out of my depth as maths and writing and spelling etc is not on my can do great list..
Where i come from it is called being thick..........
I came back and spent weeks going over the course book and watching loads of peters vids and just looking at
the markets with no trading at all......
I trade now when i feel its right and one of the best things i have learned is to scratch out of trades which works well
for me as peter says a scratch is not a loss etc........
You seem to know it all, there are loads of things i would love to ask but i dont ask alot because i dont want to piss people off,
I would love to meet up a spend good money and learn if there were any full time traders willing to spend time helping me
and i would be so thankfull but i cant help thinking you just want it all now and dont want to put the work in.
Why not start again from the basics and see how you get on, Try trap trading etc from about 12 mins out as the market is slower and
you will see more.........
You may think your smart with A LEVELS etc and can read and do maths which i cant do very well but , I KNOW HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE
and thats more to me than being a cocky twat like you have been on here,,Am sorry to jump in on someones post and hope i have not upset anyone apart from luke...
Julian.

Have to disagree that Luke is a "cocky twat".
If anything I would describe him/her as being as very focussed but perhaps lacking the empathy/charm to recruit the clever people on here.
Luke is relentless and willing to ask questions (regardless of the question making them look silly), those are great qualities for an entrepreneur,

Are you being serious? He's not focused enough to read an instruction manual. He relentlessly asks questions but ignores all answers. Inability to communicate and being too lazy to do anything for yourself and wanting others to do it for you, not thanking anyone for their efforts unless you praise what they're doing are not qualities for an entrepreneur.

[Derek27]

Luke is asking how to 'try' to achieve a 20% loss of his stake,

Could you not just give him a baf file that waits for a girl to be scored and then places 20% of the desired stake on a 0-0 draw - 20% loss and problem solved.

I must be realy thick, but I have no idea what that means.
I have huge respect for you as a poster, so it must be me.

That was just a joke - girl=goal (frequent misspelling). Luke seems to have lost sight of looking for a stop-loss in his wording and just talks about losing 20% as though that's actually the aim, so I was suggesting backing a sure loosing 0-0 draw after a goal was scored.

[Kai]

Not sure if Greenmark had the pleasure of reading through all of his threads like some of us, but people only started to poke fun at him after he took a massive dump on the entire forum + the software and I don't remember seeing any apologies either.

I've known Luke since he was about yay high and since his postcount was still in single digits and I have to say that he has not grown an inch since then, but at least now he's actively trying not to get banned

[Derek27]

Not sure if Greenmark had the pleasure of reading through all of his threads like some of us, but people only started to poke fun at him after he took a massive dump on the entire forum + the software and I don't remember seeing any apologies either.

I've known Luke since he was about yay high and since his postcount was still in single digits and I have to say that he has not grown an inch since then, but at least now he's actively trying not to get banned

I'm pretty sure I've read all 452 posts to date. Never before understood why people find garbage soap operas like Eastenders unmissable and have to catch up, but I'm beginning to understand now.