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tootall
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:57 pm
Look at this muppet / spoofer using £500 on the favourite. :D

Sticks out like a sore thumb. :lol:
So would he/bot now cancel the 500 on 2.92 and place lay bet 2.88 or 2.9. Trying to understand this.
Archery1969
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If you take 2.88 back, the 548 is removed and put on the other side at 2.90 meaning the price shoots away from your 2.88 back and leaves you gasping for air.
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mcgoo
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Can't for the life of me trade dishys..just get owned by the volatility :?
Archery1969
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All 61 selections loaded up into Guardian. :D I was going to say I am off to the pub now but its bloody shut. :(

Trembling Trixie
Salacres Tilly
Carrys Gold
Dans Pick
Salacresbenedict
Killians Glory
Fahrenheit Lee
Horseleap May
Tickity Fizz
Stonepark Beauty
Lynam The Legend
Russanda Ricky
Chickenrun Dolly
Coolanga Storm
Scala Brady
Bennos Bish
Kellehers Kick
Insane Luke
Greenhall Stella
Killeacle Matic
Brocks Snowflake
Witton Magic
Lady Delilah
Tommys Liberty
Kilcoke Babe
Fantasy Blake
Knock Knock
Ryecroft Una
Blakes Harbour
Skipalong Monty
Noirs Erin
Burgess Matt
Dunquin Dancer
Rage Jackson
Insane Rocky
Athlacca Patsy
Fearsome Grand
Bonza Buddy
Bramble Mags
Buckos Princess
Swift Brillo
Camp Jen
Maryjane
Woodcocks Alivia
Newtown Debbie
Conors Pogba
Adraville Jet
Fionntra Wave
Arterbury Sam
Crooks Pablo
Fearsome Encore
Blackrose Serena
Crooks Fabio
Wishful Poppy
Absolute Faith
Lightfoot Craig
Pyewacket
Glen Midas
Referendum
Highview Command
Geelo Mini Bee
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MemphisFlash
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that may have been useful if you had said what races those selections were in .and also if it was a back or a lay. just putting a list like that is pretty useless
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MemphisFlash wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:41 pm
that may have been useful if you had said what races those selections were in .and also if it was a back or a lay. just putting a list like that is pretty useless
These are selections which I hope will shorten in price before the post time.
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MemphisFlash
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still dont know what races they are in. you should have put the race times next to selections
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Naffman
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MemphisFlash wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:48 pm
still dont know what races they are in. you should have put the race times next to selections
Yeah god dammit do all the work for him, so lazy ;)
Archery1969
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Early days on new twist to the original idea but looking good so far using minimum £2 stakes.

Need to remove some of the manual processes (tomorrow) and see about scalability.
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sniffer66
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Bit late to the party on this one but been trading GH using my own strats. I figured it was about time I learnt to screen scrape as manually grabbing all the data is a real pain each morning. Bit of a learning curve as HTML isn't something I've really worked with and I don't know Python. So been working in Auto-it as I'm more familiar with the syntax and functions.

Going back through the thread I know SB posted up something similar using Python but this is my first result for todays races in Sporting Life. Just need to tweak a little to add the class and distance and then grab each dogs form table and do some crunching to compare average times over distance for x races - if you are now using that data

A quick dive in Excel and should be easy to average best/last and diff between 1st and 2nd dogs

Any use to anybody ?

Output.xlsx
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Archery1969
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sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:02 am
Bit late to the party on this one but been trading GH using my own strats. I figured it was about time I learnt to screen scrape as manually grabbing all the data is a real pain each morning. Bit of a learning curve as HTML isn't sometihng I've really worked with and I don't know Python. So been working in Auto-it as I'm more familiar with the syntax and functions.

Going back through the thread I know SB posted up something similar using Python but this is my first result for todays races in Sporting Life. Just need to tweak a little to add the class and distance and then grab each dogs form table and do some crunching to compare average times/distance for x races - if you are now using that data

A quick dive in Excel and should be easy to average best/last and diff between 1st and 2nd dogs

Any use to anybody ?


Output.xlsx
The more help the better. :D

However, we have noticed some differences in the data between SportingLife, RacingPost, Betfair Racing Cards and TimeForm when it comes to times and form data. There doesn't seem to be an answer has to why. Could be human error or that they maybe modifying the data for some unknown reason.
sniffer66
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:28 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:02 am
Bit late to the party on this one but been trading GH using my own strats. I figured it was about time I learnt to screen scrape as manually grabbing all the data is a real pain each morning. Bit of a learning curve as HTML isn't sometihng I've really worked with and I don't know Python. So been working in Auto-it as I'm more familiar with the syntax and functions.

Going back through the thread I know SB posted up something similar using Python but this is my first result for todays races in Sporting Life. Just need to tweak a little to add the class and distance and then grab each dogs form table and do some crunching to compare average times/distance for x races - if you are now using that data

A quick dive in Excel and should be easy to average best/last and diff between 1st and 2nd dogs

Any use to anybody ?


Output.xlsx
The more help the better. :D

However, we have noticed some differences in the data between SportingLife, RacingPost, Betfair Racing Cards and TimeForm when it comes to times and form data. There doesn't seem to be an answer has to why. Could be human error or that they maybe modifying the data for some unknown reason.
I did see the posts on that. Was going to move on to other sites after this so wondering there might be some value in averaging across sites to smooth out any differences.

Are you still using the last 10 races over same distance averages as an indicator ? All that data sits in a table under each dog on the SL site so should be straightforward to scrape into an array, match and calc
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sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:39 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:28 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:02 am
Bit late to the party on this one but been trading GH using my own strats. I figured it was about time I learnt to screen scrape as manually grabbing all the data is a real pain each morning. Bit of a learning curve as HTML isn't sometihng I've really worked with and I don't know Python. So been working in Auto-it as I'm more familiar with the syntax and functions.

Going back through the thread I know SB posted up something similar using Python but this is my first result for todays races in Sporting Life. Just need to tweak a little to add the class and distance and then grab each dogs form table and do some crunching to compare average times/distance for x races - if you are now using that data

A quick dive in Excel and should be easy to average best/last and diff between 1st and 2nd dogs

Any use to anybody ?


Output.xlsx
The more help the better. :D

However, we have noticed some differences in the data between SportingLife, RacingPost, Betfair Racing Cards and TimeForm when it comes to times and form data. There doesn't seem to be an answer has to why. Could be human error or that they maybe modifying the data for some unknown reason.
I did see the posts on that. Was going to move on to other sites after this so wondering there might be some value in averaging across sites to smooth out any differences.

Are you still using the last 10 races over same distance averages as an indicator ? All that data sits in a table under each dog on the SL site so should be straightforward to scrape into an array, match and calc
I now get data directly from https://www.gbgb.org.uk/ with some additional forecast data for calculations. It wasn't my idea or work so cant share with the forum. But the original idea is still used. I take the dog in each race with the best time over the last 30 days and cross reference with the forecast betting. Then monitor the market and if a certain amount of money starts coming in for the selection I will BTL it.

This is working very well, however, two things to note:

1. Don't use the selection if it's stepping up in grade. Example: A2 to A1. Reason being the market may think it will struggle and therefore wont get backed in.
2. Be careful if the race contains a runner (not our selection) which has stepped down in grade. Example: A1 to A2. Reason being many of these will get blindly backed into the running against the forecast picks as the market thinks its too good for the others.

That's it.
sniffer66
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:02 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:39 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:28 am


The more help the better. :D

However, we have noticed some differences in the data between SportingLife, RacingPost, Betfair Racing Cards and TimeForm when it comes to times and form data. There doesn't seem to be an answer has to why. Could be human error or that they maybe modifying the data for some unknown reason.
I did see the posts on that. Was going to move on to other sites after this so wondering there might be some value in averaging across sites to smooth out any differences.

Are you still using the last 10 races over same distance averages as an indicator ? All that data sits in a table under each dog on the SL site so should be straightforward to scrape into an array, match and calc
I now get data directly from https://www.gbgb.org.uk/ with some additional forecast data for calculations. It wasn't my idea or work so cant share with the forum. But the original idea is still used. I take the dog in each race with the best time over the last 30 days and cross reference with the forecast betting. Then monitor the market and if a certain amount of money starts coming in for the selection I will BTL it.

This is working very well, however, two things to note:

1. Don't use the selection if it's stepping up in grade. Example: A2 to A1. Reason being the market may think it will struggle and therefore wont get backed in.
2. Be careful if the race contains a runner (not our selection) which has stepped down in grade. Example: A1 to A2. Reason being many of these will get blindly backed into the running against the forecast picks as the market thinks its too good for the others.

That's it.
Ok, thanks. will take a look.

Seems a good argument to BTL the downgraded dog then ?
Archery1969
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sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:12 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:02 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:39 am


I did see the posts on that. Was going to move on to other sites after this so wondering there might be some value in averaging across sites to smooth out any differences.

Are you still using the last 10 races over same distance averages as an indicator ? All that data sits in a table under each dog on the SL site so should be straightforward to scrape into an array, match and calc
I now get data directly from https://www.gbgb.org.uk/ with some additional forecast data for calculations. It wasn't my idea or work so cant share with the forum. But the original idea is still used. I take the dog in each race with the best time over the last 30 days and cross reference with the forecast betting. Then monitor the market and if a certain amount of money starts coming in for the selection I will BTL it.

This is working very well, however, two things to note:

1. Don't use the selection if it's stepping up in grade. Example: A2 to A1. Reason being the market may think it will struggle and therefore wont get backed in.
2. Be careful if the race contains a runner (not our selection) which has stepped down in grade. Example: A1 to A2. Reason being many of these will get blindly backed into the running against the forecast picks as the market thinks its too good for the others.

That's it.
Ok, thanks. will take a look.

Seems a good argument to BTL the downgraded dog then ?
If and when the market likes the downgraded dog yes. What i do is monitor them from 5m out and if it starts getting large amounts of money then then i will BTL it. I personally wouldn't just BTL on the hope it will shorten as it might genuinely be a load of sh!te etc. :)
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