billy hills used to be much better 5 or more years ago when there was " some informed chat from experts", but these days most presenters/pundits seem to be more about promoting themselves, but they are still better then most alternatives (my opinion) i trade with pictures on and the sound off, and bills hills providing the punditry between races and commentry. As i dont trade inplay, the lag on the sound is not a problem.
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Hey peeps, only me. Long time no see.
I have a bet tomorrow which dreams are made of, stay tuned... I'll than take my barrel down the bookies and bugger off for another year.
I have a bet tomorrow which dreams are made of, stay tuned... I'll than take my barrel down the bookies and bugger off for another year.
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Yep. Particular on Racing TV.. All you ever here is.. Oh there's definitely value in this horse..
Just from today I heard... He was a nice price at 11/4, even backable at 5/2... But there's no value at 7/4.
Right OK... Can you explain why than lol.... You very rarely get an explanation as to why.
I back this at 5.7, and again at 5.6 when it [Edit: the remaining £13.9K] was dragged down one tick... however, seeing some of you guys with blank ladders after spotting it earlier than me, makes me think I did a sucker play here and just happened to win on it...
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Thanks to Stratford and Perth, another pre-race PB smashed today, and very nearly that illusive three figure green!
Damn! Those front-runners get smashed when they line up...
I'll have to make sure to have my FR list handy in future for summer jumps...
Damn! Those front-runners get smashed when they line up...

I'll have to make sure to have my FR list handy in future for summer jumps...

You're not aloneOsstrader wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:53 pmI back this at 5.7, and again at 5.6 when it [Edit: the remaining £13.9K] was dragged down one tick... however, seeing some of you guys with blank ladders after spotting it earlier than me, makes me think I did a sucker play here and just happened to win on it...

That's a nice looking spreadsheet. Is that available on the forum?sionascaig wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:24 amAn example of what can happen to book% when horse withdrawn but still traded inplay...
If the money is being matched then its genuine & going with it isn't a sucker play. I spotted it very early on, things like that a a big red thumb (it was me with the blank ladder) & the reason I didnt jump in front of it was because I already had a lay position open on the 2nd. That being backed was helping my position, so in a way I did benefit from it. I could of gained more by jumping in front but in-between managing my open position and taking snippets of the action I just never did.Osstrader wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:53 pmI back this at 5.7, and again at 5.6 when it [Edit: the remaining £13.9K] was dragged down one tick... however, seeing some of you guys with blank ladders after spotting it earlier than me, makes me think I did a sucker play here and just happened to win on it...
One of these pops up every now and then but tbh it's the most I've personally seen at those odds.
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I left this late as was drifting and didn't want to spoil the fun.
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I've mentioned this before, there's no need to overhype a tip, especially when it's double figures. Just give a tip, forget about it when it loses, take satisfaction when it wins.

I work off Guardian Volume column, it usually paints clearest picture for me to know when worthwhile to begin, especially after 2-3 races.
Think my settings are something like active from -30m to +30m ; 1s refresh and store (i) IP volume @ IP (ii) minutes late/early
Obliged, sir! I'm a bit delicate, mentally, and only scanned though. In fact, reading back, yours was the only blank ladder, but in my mind that was 'everyone'jamesg46 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:24 amIf the money is being matched then its genuine & going with it isn't a sucker play. I spotted it very early on, things like that a a big red thumb (it was me with the blank ladder) & the reason I didnt jump in front of it was because I already had a lay position open on the 2nd. That being backed was helping my position, so in a way I did benefit from it. I could of gained more by jumping in front but in-between managing my open position and taking snippets of the action I just never did.Osstrader wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:53 pmI back this at 5.7, and again at 5.6 when it [Edit: the remaining £13.9K] was dragged down one tick... however, seeing some of you guys with blank ladders after spotting it earlier than me, makes me think I did a sucker play here and just happened to win on it...
One of these pops up every now and then but tbh it's the most I've personally seen at those odds.

I saw a similar thing at Bath, 15:40 on 14th July. 12k just sat there at 2.18 after a big lay push. It never moved after it hit the market 12 mins out, even after being tested. Eventually it got fully matched in the last 60 secs, and another 11k ish appeared instantly at 2.14. Incredibly, I came out of that market with a red (I was so with consumed with this money, I forgot to look at the clock)....