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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:39 pm
Deja vu from recent news articles for anyone that paid attention all the previous years (doubt anyone did)

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It appears they have an empty one in Gloucestershire & its now by all accounts a crime to record it and put it on social media. What's that all about?
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Maybe you could break into a few closed hospital wards to find out for us, James? Get me a few of those NO2 bottles whilst you're freely wandering around too.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:44 pm

It appears they have an empty one in Gloucestershire & its now by all accounts a crime to record it and put it on social media. What's that all about?
The way things are going certainly makes you question things.

Most social media platforms now have algorithms to auto detect and censor certain topics or label them as false news. No one really knows who or how this is decided.

Contrary to this the government and media are free to make statements such as "masks and lockdowns save lives", despite their being no evidence to back it up and many scientific papers which show that there is no correlation between social distancing and death rates
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Silly cow. Obviously a closed or not in use ward. :roll:
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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:39 pm
Deja vu from recent news articles for anyone that paid attention all the previous years (doubt anyone did)

20201230_183651.jpg
People st the NHS front line say it's never been this bad. Someone who spends his time at home on a computer searching for conspiracy theories says otherwise. Who should I believe? ;)
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spreadbetting wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:48 pm
Maybe you could break into a few closed hospital wards to find out for us, James? Get me a few of those NO2 bottles whilst you're freely wandering around too.
Although it's not a pretty site, this really is the 1% of the 1% of the 1% whom are usually already above average life expectancy age.

The mainstream media showing the very few (90 year old grandma struggling to breathe), instead of the 60 million+ unaffected in this way really shows a warped perspective of reality.

The emotional response is being triggered and overriding the logical part of peoples brains, I'm surprised that so many successful traders who rely on the same concept to trade profitably cannot see through it
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spreadbetting wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:48 pm
Maybe you could break into a few closed hospital wards to find out for us, James? Get me a few of those NO2 bottles whilst you're freely wandering around too.
Why would we have closed hospitals during a pandemic is what is confusing, especially considering the other article I shared on sky news that says paramedics are treating people in queuing ambulances outside of packed hospitals.
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:02 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:39 pm
Deja vu from recent news articles for anyone that paid attention all the previous years (doubt anyone did)

20201230_183651.jpg
People st the NHS front line say it's never been this bad. Someone who spends his time at home on a computer searching for conspiracy theories says otherwise. Who should I believe? ;)
I believe that is relying too much on unquantifiable sentimental influences and you should only base your opinion on the overall numbers vs previous years from your own research
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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:54 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:44 pm

It appears they have an empty one in Gloucestershire & its now by all accounts a crime to record it and put it on social media. What's that all about?
The way things are going certainly makes you question things.

Most social media platforms now have algorithms to auto detect and censor certain topics or label them as false news. No one really knows who or how this is decided.

Contrary to this the government and media are free to make statements such as "masks and lockdowns save lives", despite their being no evidence to back it up and many scientific papers which show that there is no correlation between social distancing and death rates
The laws of physics prove that a physical barrier prevents or reduces the number of droplets passing through.

Are you seriously suggesting you have just as much chance catching a virus of someone when you're standing a long way away, or at home on your own? :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:10 pm

The laws of physics prove that a physical barrier prevents or reduces the number of droplets passing through.

Are you seriously suggesting you have just as much chance catching a virus of someone when you're standing a long way away, or at home on your own? :lol:
The virus is so much smaller than the holes in the mask, it's the equivalent of having a lion cage with the bars 0.5 miles apart

Yes under lab conditions it reduces droplets but there is probably more chance of contracting the virus from a surface e.g. shop door handle/card reader/self-checkout touch screen/petrol pump and then touching your face to remove the mask than there is of contracting it through the air

Where's the guy on here that posts Alan Watts lectures about how we can't influence the external environment (market) when you need him?
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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:03 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:48 pm
Maybe you could break into a few closed hospital wards to find out for us, James? Get me a few of those NO2 bottles whilst you're freely wandering around too.
Although it's not a pretty site, this really is the 1% of the 1% of the 1% whom are usually already above average life expectancy age.

The mainstream media showing the very few (90 year old grandma struggling to breathe), instead of the 60 million+ unaffected in this way really shows a warped perspective of reality.

The emotional response is being triggered and overriding the logical part of peoples brains, I'm surprised that so many successful traders who rely on the same concept to trade profitably cannot see through it
Don't know what news you're watching but BBC and Sky show people of all ages suffering with it. Trading is all about seeing what's there, not what you want or feel, which is what you're doing
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jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:03 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:48 pm
Maybe you could break into a few closed hospital wards to find out for us, James? Get me a few of those NO2 bottles whilst you're freely wandering around too.
Why would we have closed hospitals during a pandemic is what is confusing, especially considering the other article I shared on sky news that says paramedics are treating people in queuing ambulances outside of packed hospitals.
They might not have staff, the power supply might be broken, it might need converting, they might have a new minor injuries unit, etc.

You can't simply dump covid patients in an empty ward and bugger off - they need staff who are fully stretched. :)
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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:17 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:10 pm

The laws of physics prove that a physical barrier prevents or reduces the number of droplets passing through.

Are you seriously suggesting you have just as much chance catching a virus of someone when you're standing a long way away, or at home on your own? :lol:
The virus is so much smaller than the holes in the mask, it's the equivalent of having a lion cage with the bars 0.5 miles apart

Yes under lab conditions it reduces droplets but there is probably more chance of contracting the virus from a surface e.g. shop door handle/card reader/self-checkout touch screen/petrol pump and then touching your face to remove the mask than there is of contracting it through the air

Where's the guy on here that posts Alan Watts lectures about how we can't influence the external environment (market) when you need him?
Right here but i also know I have no influence of my external surroundings, like this forum or its members. I've already said that I agree with your logic but I know for certain you'll never persuade a belief, unless you have the power of the msm to create an echoe chamber.
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:22 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:03 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:48 pm
Maybe you could break into a few closed hospital wards to find out for us, James? Get me a few of those NO2 bottles whilst you're freely wandering around too.
Why would we have closed hospitals during a pandemic is what is confusing, especially considering the other article I shared on sky news that says paramedics are treating people in queuing ambulances outside of packed hospitals.
They might not have staff, the power supply might be broken, it might need converting, they might have a new minor injuries unit, etc.

You can't simply dump covid patients in an empty ward and bugger off - they need staff who are fully stretched. :)
What was the point in building the knightengale then? Where did all them volunteer nurses go?

Might, might or might is the equivalent to anyone else's speculation. I just found it interesting that we have empty wards or a hospital.
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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:05 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:02 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:39 pm
Deja vu from recent news articles for anyone that paid attention all the previous years (doubt anyone did)

20201230_183651.jpg
People st the NHS front line say it's never been this bad. Someone who spends his time at home on a computer searching for conspiracy theories says otherwise. Who should I believe? ;)
I believe that is relying too much on unquantifiable sentimental influences and you should only base your opinion on the overall numbers vs previous years from your own research
You:ve got that the wrong way around. You're the one in the former category. And you shouldn't base your opinion only on past v present numbers - that's being very narrow minded. There are far more variables.
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