US Presidential Election 2020

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knightwire2
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sa7med wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:53 am
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:30 am
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:23 am

It's a bit late for you now as Betfair have settled the market and your bet's lost! Not much point in having evidence if only you and Trump have seen it and won't share it. Trump can't be inaugurated now as he's planning to be in Scotland to avoid having to watch Biden get sworn in. :)
Betfair did indeed settle but there is a huge lawsuit of over 1000 people who - me included - who are fighting it cos they settled early. Its all a bit confusing but there seems to be some indication that Betfair will pay out when Trump wins. Apparently they did exactly the same in 2016 - they never learn!

My market today is the Trump Exit date - 1.02 to lay trump leaving in 2021. Waiting for a mug to take my money :-)

And lambo is still on hold!
I've just read some of your posts. Thanks for the laugh and insight into how delusional people can get! Now I kinda understand why Trump was trading at 1.02/1.03 for so long.

My unsolicited advice for you is to take some time off, reassess things, have a serious think about how you got to this point and try to unpack/reset all that bullshit you've swallowed up over the years. Perhaps go on some sort of spiritual journey. I'm not trying to take the piss, it's serious heartfelt advice.
Thank sa7med. i appreciate the thought. However, without taking the piss either, i would recommend the same to you. Did you ever watch the film Oceans 12 i think it was? Where they go after the faberge egg? Its only at the end that they go back and reveal that they had been in control of the egg the whole time, and how the viewer - and the baddie himself - had been completely deceived as to what had been happening. Well, its a very similar situation to what has been happening at this election. All will be revealed in the coming days and weeks, i feel!

I appreciate your comments (genuinely), but i genuinely repeat them back to you :-) We all take the Red Pill and realize we are living in a well controlled Matrix, at different times. I have done so. I hope you do too. :-)
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:30 am
I get genuinely confused why people think Trump is an authoritarian? I can only assume its from listening to propaganda outlets like Sky News / BBC news / GMB too much? Trump is OBLIGATED by the Constitution, which is what the law of america is based on, on behalf of the people, to ensure that the election was done without any fraud. He has an absolute obligation to do that.
He doesn't actually - the courts do. When a president puts himself above the courts and takes matters into his own hands he becomes a dictator. You're struggling to understand that everybody thinks their right, some people think if the highest court in the land disagrees with them the court must be corrupt, but broad-minded people just accept that if you can't convince the majority you accept defeat.
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:30 am
He is absolutely not being a dictator in any way. The tyranny that much of the world is experiencing right now - under the hoax of this pandemic - comes from the very deep state that Trump is fighting! If Trump were to go down, the tyranny of lockdowns etc will become a PERMANENT thing, and we will be under worldwide communist control. That is an absolute fact.
You don't understand the meaning of the word fact! That's your twisted opinion.
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:30 am
Sorry for such a long post but many people dont seem to realise the enormity of what is happening right now. Trump and the alliance have been aware for many years that if they dont beat the deep state - which includes the royal family, vatican, ALL main stream media, Hollywood celebs, and influential people all across the globe - then the world will go dark. He simply CANNOT let that happen. He is literally fighting for the freedom of humanity. Put simply, if we want to ever be free from lockdowns, Trump HAS to win.

Its your choice as to whether to believe me or not, of course, its no skin off my nose. However, you may want to watch this if you want the full story of what has been going on behind the scenes for the last 4 years:

I know most people probably wont even bother watching it, but if you do i promise you your view of what is going on will change dramatically.
As I've said before you're living in a world of your own, so only people within your fantasy land will believe it. Nobody in their right mind is going to waste 2.5 hours when you can't even answer simple questions put to you.
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:30 am
Of course, alternatively, you can keep believing that there really is a dangerous new strain of the virus which has just arrived. How convenient!

Its going to be one excuse after another to keep locking us all down!
What's convenient? You still haven't explained what's the motive for locking down if it's not for a virus.
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:30 am
In the meantime, Trump Exit Date 2021 is still looking an exceptional lay at 1.02 / 1.03 !
You've already lost a fortune on Trump winning the election and you're still giving betting advice. :lol:
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 am
Betfair are giving indications that they may voluntarily pay out once Trump WINS. They also sent me an email saying they will abide by any IBAS decision. So it shouldnt cost anything. But if it does go to the legal lawsuit, i guess there will be some sort of commissiont to pay to lawyers etc

https://youtu.be/FJG-9Dk01DA
I don't have time for a 20+ minute video, do you have a statement from Betfair? IBAS will simply look at Betfair's rules, look at the result and then say your bet lost!!

How many times do you hear of people threatening court action in frustration, only to discover they'd need to mortgage their house to get their £500 back. :lol:
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:42 am
We all take the Red Pill and realize we are living in a well controlled Matrix, at different times. I have done so. I hope you do too. :-)
Speak for yourself - you're living in a very different world to the rest of us. :)
knightwire2
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Zenyatta wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:07 am
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:30 am


Betfair did indeed settle but there is a huge lawsuit of over 1000 people who - me included - who are fighting it cos they settled early. Its all a bit confusing but there seems to be some indication that Betfair will pay out when Trump wins. Apparently they did exactly the same in 2016 - they never learn!

My market today is the Trump Exit date - 1.02 to lay trump leaving in 2021. Waiting for a mug to take my money :-)

And lambo is still on hold!
Ok, so the Repubs just lost both senate seats in Georgia because most voters realized they don't want to live under a theocracy.

There may be challenges to the electoral votes today in Congress/Senate, but Pence basically must certify Biden as the winner. Pence's only other legal option might be to 'send back' the electors to the state legislatures for confirmation, but this would only delay a Biden win for another few days.

So Biden definitely wins either today or in another few days at most.

The only chance for Trump to win would be to stage a military coup, but I'm pretty sure he just wouldn't have any support in the military to carry it out.
the only coup going on is the massive communist coup which china is trying to bring over america, and the world, through their brain-dead puppet Biden.

As for military support... who do you think asked Trump to run for President in the first place, back in 2016? Yep, youve guessed correctly. It was the MILITARY.

The military were going to launch a coup against Obama, because they knew Obama was a chinese / globalist puppet, preparing for the chinese invasion of america through the vast underground tunnel network coming down through the US via Trudeaux-led Canada. (Check Trudeau more and you'll see it is suggested he is the son of communist Fidel Castro. But dont check it on Google as all you will get is communist 'fact checkers' telling you thats false!) Why do you think Obama was so anti gun ? So that the americans patriots would have nothing to defend themselves once the invasion happened.

The ONLY reason the military did not go through with their coup is that they asked Trump to stand, so that things could be done lawfully. So if Trump hadn't have stood, there would indeed have been a military coup against Obama. Trump won in 2016, and ever since then Trump's team - with the MILITARY - have been behind the systematic removal of the chinese / deep state threat.

Of course, because the media are all paid for by the deep state, you will not hear any of this on the news. Why do you think the media have been against Trump from day 1? Because Trump is a very real threat to those who own the media, thats why.

The only coup being attempted here is via the chinese / globalist - backed Biden team

This 5 minute clip explains how trump was originally asked to stand : https://youtu.be/_R13UeSpPhI
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:22 pm
Zenyatta wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:07 am
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:30 am


Betfair did indeed settle but there is a huge lawsuit of over 1000 people who - me included - who are fighting it cos they settled early. Its all a bit confusing but there seems to be some indication that Betfair will pay out when Trump wins. Apparently they did exactly the same in 2016 - they never learn!

My market today is the Trump Exit date - 1.02 to lay trump leaving in 2021. Waiting for a mug to take my money :-)

And lambo is still on hold!
Ok, so the Repubs just lost both senate seats in Georgia because most voters realized they don't want to live under a theocracy.

There may be challenges to the electoral votes today in Congress/Senate, but Pence basically must certify Biden as the winner. Pence's only other legal option might be to 'send back' the electors to the state legislatures for confirmation, but this would only delay a Biden win for another few days.

So Biden definitely wins either today or in another few days at most.

The only chance for Trump to win would be to stage a military coup, but I'm pretty sure he just wouldn't have any support in the military to carry it out.
the only coup going on is the massive communist coup which china is trying to bring over america, and the world, through their brain-dead puppet Biden.

As for military support... who do you think asked Trump to run for President in the first place, back in 2016? Yep, youve guessed correctly. It was the MILITARY.

The military were going to launch a coup against Obama, because they knew Obama was a chinese / globalist puppet, preparing for the chinese invasion of america through the vast underground tunnel network coming down through the US via Trudeaux-led Canada. (Check Trudeau more and you'll see it is suggested he is the son of communist Fidel Castro. But dont check it on Google as all you will get is communist 'fact checkers' telling you thats false!) Why do you think Obama was so anti gun ? So that the americans patriots would have nothing to defend themselves once the invasion happened.

The ONLY reason the military did not go through with their coup is that they asked Trump to stand, so that things could be done lawfully. So if Trump hadn't have stood, there would indeed have been a military coup against Obama. Trump won in 2016, and ever since then Trump's team - with the MILITARY - have been behind the systematic removal of the chinese / deep state threat.

Of course, because the media are all paid for by the deep state, you will not hear any of this on the news. Why do you think the media have been against Trump from day 1? Because Trump is a very real threat to those who own the media, thats why.

The only coup being attempted here is via the chinese / globalist - backed Biden team

This 5 minute clip explains how trump was originally asked to stand : https://youtu.be/_R13UeSpPhI
Okay so if trump doesn't win in the coming days and all isn't "revealed" will you stop citing Hollywood movies as evidence, realize you don't actually have a shred of evidence to corroborate any of your outlandish claims and reassess your life please? Really, I worry about you despite only just met you.
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:22 pm
The military were going to launch a coup against Obama, because they knew Obama was a chinese / globalist puppet, preparing for the chinese invasion of america through the vast underground tunnel network coming down through the US via Trudeaux-led Canada. (Check Trudeau more and you'll see it is suggested he is the son of communist Fidel Castro. But dont check it on Google as all you will get is communist 'fact checkers' telling you thats false!) Why do you think Obama was so anti gun ? So that the americans patriots would have nothing to defend themselves once the invasion happened.

The ONLY reason the military did not go through with their coup is that they asked Trump to stand, so that things could be done lawfully. So if Trump hadn't have stood, there would indeed have been a military coup against Obama. Trump won in 2016, and ever since then Trump's team - with the MILITARY - have been behind the systematic removal of the chinese / deep state threat.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:22 pm
Of course, because the media are all paid for by the deep state, you will not hear any of this on the news. Why do you think the media have been against Trump from day 1? Because Trump is a very real threat to those who own the media, thats why.

The only coup being attempted here is via the chinese / globalist - backed Biden team

This 5 minute clip explains how trump was originally asked to stand : https://youtu.be/_R13UeSpPhI
:lol: This sub 3 minute video explains how easily fooled you are!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOy_oP3ESQY
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Let's be real now, Trump should've conceded a couple of weeks back.

He should've known (and probably did) that not doing this would cost the GOP the senate and something they probably won't forgive him for.

You have to wonder where they go from here, they need to find someone not as divisive but also someone who can hold onto the Trump loyalists. And if Trump registers as an IND then the Dems could very well win 400+ in 2023.
knightwire2
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sa7med wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:26 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:22 pm
Zenyatta wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:07 am


Ok, so the Repubs just lost both senate seats in Georgia because most voters realized they don't want to live under a theocracy.

There may be challenges to the electoral votes today in Congress/Senate, but Pence basically must certify Biden as the winner. Pence's only other legal option might be to 'send back' the electors to the state legislatures for confirmation, but this would only delay a Biden win for another few days.

So Biden definitely wins either today or in another few days at most.

The only chance for Trump to win would be to stage a military coup, but I'm pretty sure he just wouldn't have any support in the military to carry it out.
the only coup going on is the massive communist coup which china is trying to bring over america, and the world, through their brain-dead puppet Biden.

As for military support... who do you think asked Trump to run for President in the first place, back in 2016? Yep, youve guessed correctly. It was the MILITARY.

The military were going to launch a coup against Obama, because they knew Obama was a chinese / globalist puppet, preparing for the chinese invasion of america through the vast underground tunnel network coming down through the US via Trudeaux-led Canada. (Check Trudeau more and you'll see it is suggested he is the son of communist Fidel Castro. But dont check it on Google as all you will get is communist 'fact checkers' telling you thats false!) Why do you think Obama was so anti gun ? So that the americans patriots would have nothing to defend themselves once the invasion happened.

The ONLY reason the military did not go through with their coup is that they asked Trump to stand, so that things could be done lawfully. So if Trump hadn't have stood, there would indeed have been a military coup against Obama. Trump won in 2016, and ever since then Trump's team - with the MILITARY - have been behind the systematic removal of the chinese / deep state threat.

Of course, because the media are all paid for by the deep state, you will not hear any of this on the news. Why do you think the media have been against Trump from day 1? Because Trump is a very real threat to those who own the media, thats why.

The only coup being attempted here is via the chinese / globalist - backed Biden team

This 5 minute clip explains how trump was originally asked to stand : https://youtu.be/_R13UeSpPhI
Okay so if trump doesn't win in the coming days and all isn't "revealed" will you stop citing Hollywood movies as evidence, realize you don't actually have a shred of evidence to corroborate any of your outlandish claims and reassess your life please? Really, I worry about you despite only just met you.
Of course, if i have read things completely wrongly, and Trump ends up not being inaugurated, i will reassess my life! However, i am on a deeply spiritual path, and i can assure you that will not happen.

Can i ask you, however, what "evidence" you have that Biden is going to win? You realise that what the media "say" is happening isnt always what is actually happening? Media reports certainly do not equate to 'evidence'

I appreciate that my views are different to most people. Then again most people live their lives with ill health, in debt, depressed and sick, and having to get up every day to work from 9 to 5. I do not. I am 50 and dont suffer sickness in any form.

Maybe cos i dont listen to the main stream media who, from what i remember, seem to have a habit of trying to depress people through bad news. I wonder why?

So maybe my views arent that damaging to me, after all. :-) But i appreciate your concern!
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:15 am
Naffman wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:29 am
Dems won the 2 GA senate seats, Republicans definitely have to move to someone less divisive but if Trump decides to run can the Reps stop him? Or he could just register as an Independent.
Can you run for US presidency from prison?
Well lets see. Biden tried to do it from Gitmo. Until he was executed (remember when Trump repeatedly said "Sleepy Joe's shot" in his rallies? He wasnt kidding). I dont think the body double - who clearly is nothing like the original Biden - they have since wheeled out over the last year or so has done a particularly good job though!
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No reptilians were harmed in the making of this conspiracy.
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Euler wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:15 pm
No reptilians were harmed in the making of this conspiracy.

lol!

Though the only conspiracy i see is that there is a huge deadly virus out there, and that Trump is the enemy of the world!
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Naffman wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:54 pm
Let's be real now, Trump should've conceded a couple of weeks back.

He should've known (and probably did) that not doing this would cost the GOP the senate and something they probably won't forgive him for.

You have to wonder where they go from here, they need to find someone not as divisive but also someone who can hold onto the Trump loyalists. And if Trump registers as an IND then the Dems could very well win 400+ in 2023.
The Trump loyalists are way beyond help now!
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:24 pm
The Trump loyalists are way beyond help now!
It is very bizarre but at the same time, it explains how inefficiencies creep into the market.
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Slow day guys? :lol:

I wish we had a few more conspiracy guys on here, its my favourite pass time. Knightwire I was disappointed that you didn't get my 11,780 comment last night, especially considering all the comms the conspiracy guys seem to have caught on to this last few days.
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