Newbie needs help Avoiding Random Odds.

[FrankArch]

Hi,

I've been trialling dutching the correct score for a percentage of book within Guardian. I belive this is the best way to achieve Automated Dutching. I have been using a £100 stake and the automation has been working well delivering targeted profits and losses.My problem came in the Sutton Utd match yesterday when randomly the sytem placed £348 of bets and delivered a £348 loss (fortunately in Practice mode) I noticed that all of the odds on the scores were extremely short 4 of them under 3 and 1 at 6. Therefore I conclude that my problem was not with Guardian but with the Betfair odds at the time. Has anyone else come accross this problem before. The bets are set to be place between 3sec before and 5 secs after kick off. Is this my problem or is it a common problem and I would need to monitor all bets? I'd appreciate any advice please.

[sphilipmyer]

Perhaps you could try a back side of the market book % condition, so it doesn't fire when there are few Layers and the market is thin and odds are uncompetitive.

[FrankArch]

Perhaps you could try a back side of the market book condition, so it doesn't fire when there are few Layers and the market is thin and odds are uncompetitive.

Thanks very much for the reply.

I am actualy using the back side.

[jamesedwards]

Perhaps you could try a back side of the market book condition, so it doesn't fire when there are few Layers and the market is thin and odds are uncompetitive.

Thanks very much for the reply.

I am actualy using the back side.

Use the book % condition rule to make sure the market is competitive before the back rule is triggered.

[Dublin_Flyer]

I had a similar problem on a Correct Score automation a few times over recent months (Practice mode too thankfully) and never figured out what was causing it as I never saw it live. From the 19 options in the Correct Score market, there was anywhere between 6 and 9 of them at around 1.19 -1.40 range going by the matched bets tab.

I tried the "Time since market was unsuspended" condition for 90 seconds, but that isn't even enough for some markets to readjust after a suspension.
Book % condition is definitely the way to go as the others have said, I've had 0 of the weird triggers since I started using it.

The only thing is you have to find your happy medium, if you go for a Back Book % of <102% then you might have very few games triggering for your liking. If you go for a Back Book % of <115%, then if your edge is only a couple of percent, you could be paying £1.10 for a £1 note long term. You don't need to be Warren Buffett to see that isn't gonna end good.

[gazuty]

Hi,

I've been trialling dutching the correct score for a percentage of book within Guardian. I belive this is the best way to achieve Automated Dutching. I have been using a £100 stake and the automation has been working well delivering targeted profits and losses.My problem came in the Sutton Utd match yesterday when randomly the sytem placed £348 of bets and delivered a £348 loss (fortunately in Practice mode) I noticed that all of the odds on the scores were extremely short 4 of them under 3 and 1 at 6. Therefore I conclude that my problem was not with Guardian but with the Betfair odds at the time. Has anyone else come accross this problem before. The bets are set to be place between 3sec before and 5 secs after kick off. Is this my problem or is it a common problem and I would need to monitor all bets? I'd appreciate any advice please.

Welcome.

Some good answers up above on book percentage - a must for what you are doing to make sure the book is properly formed.

And if you are a newbie - take the time to read the "guidance" - viewtopic.php?p=265873#p265873

[FrankArch]

I had a similar problem on a Correct Score automation a few times over recent months (Practice mode too thankfully) and never figured out what was causing it as I never saw it live. From the 19 options in the Correct Score market, there was anywhere between 6 and 9 of them at around 1.19 -1.40 range going by the matched bets tab.

I tried the "Time since market was unsuspended" condition for 90 seconds, but that isn't even enough for some markets to readjust after a suspension.
Book % condition is definitely the way to go as the others have said, I've had 0 of the weird triggers since I started using it.

The only thing is you have to find your happy medium, if you go for a Back Book % of <102% then you might have very few games triggering for your liking. If you go for a Back Book % of <115%, then if your edge is only a couple of percent, you could be paying £1.10 for a £1 note long term. You don't need to be Warren Buffett to see that isn't gonna end good.

Thanks for reply and your experience seems to match mine exactly. I suppose its a persaverance thing.

[ShaunWhite]

I suppose its a persaverance thing.

Situations that result in a poor outcome for you are an opportunity to flip your mindset and be the one who's benefitting from them instead. The objective is to be the preditor not the prey.

[FrankArch]

I suppose its a persaverance thing.

Situations that result in a poor outcome for you are an opportunity to flip your mindset and be the one who's benefitting from them instead. The objective is to be the preditor not the prey.

Good words and Plilosphy Shaun. Thanks for the reply

[FrankArch]

Hi,

I've been trialling dutching the correct score for a percentage of book within Guardian. I belive this is the best way to achieve Automated Dutching. I have been using a £100 stake and the automation has been working well delivering targeted profits and losses.My problem came in the Sutton Utd match yesterday when randomly the sytem placed £348 of bets and delivered a £348 loss (fortunately in Practice mode) I noticed that all of the odds on the scores were extremely short 4 of them under 3 and 1 at 6. Therefore I conclude that my problem was not with Guardian but with the Betfair odds at the time. Has anyone else come accross this problem before. The bets are set to be place between 3sec before and 5 secs after kick off. Is this my problem or is it a common problem and I would need to monitor all bets? I'd appreciate any advice please.

Welcome.

Some good answers up above on book percentage - a must for what you are doing to make sure the book is properly formed.

And if you are a newbie - take the time to read the "guidance" - viewtopic.php?p=265873#p265873

Thanks for this Gazuty, Yes a newbie (who is determind to make this work) I have previously readv and now reading your suggested thread. By my own admission I am a little all over the place probably trying out too many different things. Its been a fantastic learning curve over the past few months and I think think its now back to basics with the Knowledge I have gained to date. Thanks again for the reply.