Today's Horse Racing

[Step93]

Today was a good day for those who use the purple exchange!
Betdaq "new site"
Finally a website done well, 100 times better than the previous one

[PapaShango]

Did anyone trade the 1950 Wolverhampton last night? It was clear from the feed on Betfair and Sporting Life in fact published it was a dead heat but the horses were still trading, Havanah Goldrush was trading at 2.6-3.4 so i stuck a win bet on at 3.35 and got paid out half stakes when betfair eventually settled as a dead heat.
My question is why was the exchange still trading even after the result and could I have lost money? as I was unsure I went low stakes but just wondering for the future

There was a stewards enquiry. Sounds like the betting opened again when that was announced.

P.s congratulations on winning the derby !

[Realrocknrolla]

Off to Newbury meeting today. Anyone for any fancies?

[MobiusGrey]

Off to Newbury meeting today. Anyone for any fancies?

Eldorado Allen

I've not been to Newbury but I've heard 'Tom's Pies' is some of the best food you can get at a racetrack. Enjoy

[deestar]

Off to Newbury meeting today. Anyone for any fancies?

Eldorado Allen

I've not been to Newbury but I've heard 'Tom's Pies' is some of the best food you can get at a racetrack. Enjoy

Nice shout.

[MobiusGrey]

Off to Newbury meeting today. Anyone for any fancies?

Eldorado Allen

I've not been to Newbury but I've heard 'Tom's Pies' is some of the best food you can get at a racetrack. Enjoy

Nice shout.

Good value if you got on early enough

[jamesg46]

Moonacura’s price looks a little off track.

[beermonsterman]

Is it just me or has pre race trading been like finding bird shit in a Cuckoo clock lately ? is it the time of year or are the markets more efficient whats your take on it pre racers ?

[alexmr2]

Is it just me or has pre race trading been like finding bird shit in a Cuckoo clock lately ? is it the time of year or are the markets more efficient whats your take on it pre racers ?

This graph from Peter might explain it

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[MobiusGrey]

I gave up trying to crack the pre-race game a while ago, I know people have answered to the contrary in another thread but to me those markets seem so heavily botted you don't stand a chance. The only thing left for me horse racing wise is a very small edge of around 2-4% taking straight up value bets.

[verance]

This graph from Peter might explain it

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Interesting, what does this graph show?

[PapaShango]

This graph from Peter might explain it

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Interesting, what does this graph show?

Think it just shows that there is less racing in the winter months, and more racing and opportunities in the summer.

I used to prefer the winter months as you could take things a bit easier and still do o.k. I don’t like this new winter schedule though. Especially when it’s two day time jumps and one evening A.W.

I much prefer 3 day time cards. Even when they used to stagger it on a Monday and Tuesday and have the A.W starting around 2pm with the jumps starting about midday.

I hate this new schedule. I don’t trade Irish, and they don’t race there everyday anyway. With just two jump meetings I find opportunities hard to come by. Especially with all the bumpers, hunter chases, and uncompetitive races with a 1/8 fav. There are only a handful of races over midweek jumps that even appeal to have a look at, if I decide to pass or can’t find anything in those it feels like I’m sat at my desk twiddling my thumbs doing nothing all afternoon.

Then by the time the A.W starts at night I’ve lost interest, lost money, got bored, or can’t be bothered.

There has barely been a cancellation this winter either, weather has been kind to racing, but the schedule just makes it feel dead. I’d rather when it’s frosty and it gets abandoned so you can have a proper day off without worrying that you’re going to miss something.

Does look to pick up from next week in though. Lots more days with 3 daytime and an A.W, then Cheltenham is in 4 weeks too. Things usually pick up in the run up to the festival.

And April is absolutely mental. Scottish National on first weekend, before English National which comes a week after this year. Craven week comes before Easter and A.W finals days, night racing starts that week too, and the final Saturday of April is 2000 gns day.

So might as well make the most of it being quiet, as it looks to get pretty hectic from here on in.

[verance]

Think it just shows that there is less racing in the winter months, and more racing and opportunities in the summer.

I used to prefer the winter months as you could take things a bit easier and still do o.k. I don’t like this new winter schedule though. Especially when it’s two day time jumps and one evening A.W.

I much prefer 3 day time cards. Even when they used to stagger it on a Monday and Tuesday and have the A.W starting around 2pm with the jumps starting about midday.

I hate this new schedule. I don’t trade Irish, and they don’t race there everyday anyway. With just two jump meetings I find opportunities hard to come by. Especially with all the bumpers, hunter chases, and uncompetitive races with a 1/8 fav. There are only a handful of races over midweek jumps that even appeal to have a look at, if I decide to pass or can’t find anything in those it feels like I’m sat at my desk twiddling my thumbs doing nothing all afternoon.

Then by the time the A.W starts at night I’ve lost interest, lost money, got bored, or can’t be bothered.

There has barely been a cancellation this winter either, weather has been kind to racing, but the schedule just makes it feel dead. I’d rather when it’s frosty and it gets abandoned so you can have a proper day off without worrying that you’re going to miss something.

Does look to pick up from next week in though. Lots more days with 3 daytime and an A.W, then Cheltenham is in 4 weeks too. Things usually pick up in the run up to the festival.

And April is absolutely mental. Scottish National on first weekend, before English National which comes a week after this year. Craven week comes before Easter and A.W finals days, night racing starts that week too, and the final Saturday of April is 2000 gns day.

So might as well make the most of it being quiet, as it looks to get pretty hectic from here on in.

I find it fascinating, here's my own bets showing pretty much exactly the same thing. I don't think it's that there's so much less racing, my total staked in Decemebr is about half compared to June, but I'd expect the same ROI.

Some possible reasons:
1. Winter markets are more efficient - Doubtful

2. I should just stick to flat racing - Possible but summer jumps and AW are generally good

3. Winter markets are less liquid causing me to overstake and impact the market - Possible but I don't think so

4. My bets are predominantly lays at the top end of the market, maybe these don't work as well on winter markets?

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EDIT: Peter's seems to be proportion of profit, mine is ROI

[Realrocknrolla]

Off to Newbury meeting today. Anyone for any fancies?

Eldorado Allen

I've not been to Newbury but I've heard 'Tom's Pies' is some of the best food you can get at a racetrack. Enjoy

Missed that post, but had four winners on the day... including the 20/1. Great track!

[xtrader16]

Bay of Intrigue backers getting smashed in the first.