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Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:17 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:44 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:31 pm

They can be identified by their personal equipment, such as radios, night-vision, etc. I heard years ago there are some experts working of militaries that can analyse human shit, work out what the owner of it was eating and consequently what part of the world they're from. Not sure it that would be any use now as diets are diverse and you could simply give them Russian food. :)
Well, if they been eating Borscht for weeks then I wouldn't want to be the one analysing their shit if they are there and get caught. :lol:
I wouldn't want to analyse shit regardless of what the owner was eating. :lol:
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Derek27
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Apologies for, once again, lowering the standard of discussion. :)
jamesg46
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Looking at the situation from outside of our lens.

https://youtu.be/UcIkwKVxrjk
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:57 pm
Looking at the situation from outside of our lens.

https://youtu.be/UcIkwKVxrjk
That's really looking at the situation through Putin's lens: "Russia only made a simple demand". Not sure that tit understands the meaning of the word demand. :roll:
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:11 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:57 pm
Looking at the situation from outside of our lens.

https://youtu.be/UcIkwKVxrjk
That's really looking at the situation through Putin's lens: "Russia only made a simple demand". Not sure that tit understands the meaning of the word demand. :roll:
If you watch all of the links I’ve posted, nobody in the east seems to see it the way the west does. I think Putin is right to stand up against the west, you’ll find most Ukrainian people agree, they don’t want to be apart of NATO…. Heck, most people who are morally conscious in the west don’t want to be part of NATO. It’s a war machine, it can only thrive through war.
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NATO, “Ima flex you into submission”, Russia “Fuck you”… I’ll always be on the side of the “Fuck you”.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:29 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:11 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:57 pm
Looking at the situation from outside of our lens.

https://youtu.be/UcIkwKVxrjk
That's really looking at the situation through Putin's lens: "Russia only made a simple demand". Not sure that tit understands the meaning of the word demand. :roll:
If you watch all of the links I’ve posted, nobody in the east seems to see it the way the west does. I think Putin is right to stand up against the west, you’ll find most Ukrainian people agree, they don’t want to be apart of NATO…. Heck, most people who are morally conscious in the west don’t want to be part of NATO. It’s a war machine, it can only thrive through war.
I haven't got time to look at all your links but when you say nobody in the east, I take it you mean not many people? How many people did you survey?
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:46 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:29 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:11 am


That's really looking at the situation through Putin's lens: "Russia only made a simple demand". Not sure that tit understands the meaning of the word demand. :roll:
If you watch all of the links I’ve posted, nobody in the east seems to see it the way the west does. I think Putin is right to stand up against the west, you’ll find most Ukrainian people agree, they don’t want to be apart of NATO…. Heck, most people who are morally conscious in the west don’t want to be part of NATO. It’s a war machine, it can only thrive through war.
I haven't got time to look at all your links but when you say nobody in the east, I take it you mean not many people? How many people did you survey?
Fair point there Derek… I can only go off a small sample. I guess that is a lesson for us all.

If you think about it though, would you feel threatened if India, Pakistan, China and Russia formed a creeping alliance towards the west… all of them nuclear powers having the capability of hitting us in minuets? It’s pretty obvious Russia did what they needed to do.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:52 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:46 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:29 am


If you watch all of the links I’ve posted, nobody in the east seems to see it the way the west does. I think Putin is right to stand up against the west, you’ll find most Ukrainian people agree, they don’t want to be apart of NATO…. Heck, most people who are morally conscious in the west don’t want to be part of NATO. It’s a war machine, it can only thrive through war.
I haven't got time to look at all your links but when you say nobody in the east, I take it you mean not many people? How many people did you survey?
Fair point there Derek… I can only go off a small sample. I guess that is a lesson for us all.

If you think about it though, would you feel threatened if India, Pakistan, China and Russia formed a creeping alliance towards the west… all of them nuclear powers having the capability of hitting us in minuets? It’s pretty obvious Russia did what they needed to do.
I disagree. It's not a lesson for us all, just people who rely on small surveys. ;)

If those four countries formed a pact that would be worrying, but they're entitled to do it and we can't stop them. If you're saying Russia needed to invade Ukraine, I guess you're simply adopting a different provocative view, as you usually do, just to be different.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:52 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:46 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:29 am


If you watch all of the links I’ve posted, nobody in the east seems to see it the way the west does. I think Putin is right to stand up against the west, you’ll find most Ukrainian people agree, they don’t want to be apart of NATO…. Heck, most people who are morally conscious in the west don’t want to be part of NATO. It’s a war machine, it can only thrive through war.
I haven't got time to look at all your links but when you say nobody in the east, I take it you mean not many people? How many people did you survey?
Fair point there Derek… I can only go off a small sample. I guess that is a lesson for us all.

If you think about it though, would you feel threatened if India, Pakistan, China and Russia formed a creeping alliance towards the west… all of them nuclear powers having the capability of hitting us in minuets? It’s pretty obvious Russia did what they needed to do.
The fact you're missing here is all ex-USSR states had the chance to align with Russia or Nato and all except Belarus (governed by a nutter) chose Nato. And "chose" is very, very important word here.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:08 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:52 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:46 am

I haven't got time to look at all your links but when you say nobody in the east, I take it you mean not many people? How many people did you survey?
Fair point there Derek… I can only go off a small sample. I guess that is a lesson for us all.

If you think about it though, would you feel threatened if India, Pakistan, China and Russia formed a creeping alliance towards the west… all of them nuclear powers having the capability of hitting us in minuets? It’s pretty obvious Russia did what they needed to do.
I disagree. It's not a lesson for us all, just people who rely on small surveys. ;)

If those four countries formed a pact that would be worrying, but they're entitled to do it and we can't stop them. If you're saying Russia needed to invade Ukraine, I guess you're simply adopting a different provocative view, as you usually do, just to be different.
Those four countries have an alliance. China produces 80% of our product. Good luck to the west!
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The west has used the east like they’re nothing more than waiters. The east has been nothing but patient, I hope all complicit get slaughtered for the fat pigs they are.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:36 am
The west has used the east like they’re nothing more than waiters. The east has been nothing but patient, I hope all complicit get slaughtered for the fat pigs they are.
You are angry with the world! There's good and bad in the world, always has been. It's just a question of what you like to dwell on?
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:40 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:36 am
The west has used the east like they’re nothing more than waiters. The east has been nothing but patient, I hope all complicit get slaughtered for the fat pigs they are.
You are angry with the world! There's good and bad in the world, always has been. It's just a question of what you like to dwell on?
I’m not angry with the world, I’m angry with humanity.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:57 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:40 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:36 am
The west has used the east like they’re nothing more than waiters. The east has been nothing but patient, I hope all complicit get slaughtered for the fat pigs they are.
You are angry with the world! There's good and bad in the world, always has been. It's just a question of what you like to dwell on?
I’m not angry with the world, I’m angry with humanity.
Try and think of the positive aspects of humanity. Poland opening their doors to as many desperate Ukrainians as necessary, giving them food, clothes, toiletries, volunteer drivers taking them wherever they need to go. One guy drove all the way from the Czech Republic to the Ukrainian border to help out. I'm quite happy with humanity. :)
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