Ukraine Crisis
Oh dearTrader Pat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:31 pmThere's a fine line between great tv and a total car crash of an interview!
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I think it's the other way around. Putin made the call to Macron only to be told that he's deluding himself with his genocide claims.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:33 pmLooks like Macron has been made to look like a complete muppet by Putin.
"There call today, Putin told him he wants all of Ukraine back"
This will have to end in WW3.
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His face when he realisesJasBarrow wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:09 pmOh dearTrader Pat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:31 pmThere's a fine line between great tv and a total car crash of an interview!
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Didn't Ukraine give up its Nuclear weapons on the understanding the west would protect it. Bet they wish they kept them now. And who knows, maybe they didn't hand all of them over or gave a false number to start with.
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Yes the Budapest memorandum. Along with the West, Russia gave assurances to respect Ukraine's borders and sovereignty and provided security assurances. Almost funny when you read about it now.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:02 amDidn't Ukraine give up its Nuclear weapons on the understanding the west would protect it. Bet they wish they kept them now. And who knows, maybe they didn't hand all of them over or gave a false number to start with.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-fr ... emorandum/
Yeah considering this and nato's broken promise not to expand to eastern europe this all is a one big bloody fckn circus in which we all have to be spectators against our will.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:14 amYes the Budapest memorandum. Along with the West, Russia gave assurances to respect Ukraine's borders and sovereignty and provided security assurances. Almost funny when you read about it now.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:02 amDidn't Ukraine give up its Nuclear weapons on the understanding the west would protect it. Bet they wish they kept them now. And who knows, maybe they didn't hand all of them over or gave a false number to start with.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-fr ... emorandum/
shouldn't find it funny, but he literally is like a kid in a nursery school fight over a macdonalds free toy!!Trader Pat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:02 pmHis face when he realisesJasBarrow wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:09 pmOh dearTrader Pat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:31 pmThere's a fine line between great tv and a total car crash of an interview!
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this also made me smile: https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/sta ... 7068213251
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Yes they broke promises but I'd rather live in a world of NATO than a world of Putin.napshnap wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:53 amYeah considering this and nato's broken promise not to expand to eastern europe this all is a one big bloody fckn circus in which we all have to be spectators against our will.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:14 amYes the Budapest memorandum. Along with the West, Russia gave assurances to respect Ukraine's borders and sovereignty and provided security assurances. Almost funny when you read about it now.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:02 amDidn't Ukraine give up its Nuclear weapons on the understanding the west would protect it. Bet they wish they kept them now. And who knows, maybe they didn't hand all of them over or gave a false number to start with.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-fr ... emorandum/
I don't see an alternative to NATO. If it was disbanded tomorrow then Putin and his ilk would be free to invade any country they wanted.
NATO is far from perfect but its better than nothing imo.
Nuclear missiles aren't that easy to hide. They need launch pads and other facilities that can be seen from satellite images. That's how they spotted launch sites in Cuba.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:02 amDidn't Ukraine give up its Nuclear weapons on the understanding the west would protect it. Bet they wish they kept them now. And who knows, maybe they didn't hand all of them over or gave a false number to start with.