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Archery1969
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Captured Russian soldiers have state of the art kit and supplies.

Just seen ambushed and captured Russian soldiers with sealed field dressings dated 1978.

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Let’s hope Putins Nukes are out of date too.

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Derek27
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The NATO SG was asked how NATO would respond to a nuclear attack from Russia - he wasn't able to answer. Let's face it, it will be a complete obliteration of the northern hemisphere.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:54 pm
Captured Russian soldiers have state of the art kit and supplies.

Just seen ambushed and captured Russian soldiers with sealed field dressings dated 1978.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let’s hope Putins Nukes are out of date too.

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They did a test just before invading Ukraine. That's probably why their kit is so out of date. All their money is going on nukes.
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:58 pm
The NATO SG was asked how NATO would respond to a nuclear attack from Russia - he wasn't able to answer. Let's face it, it will be a complete obliteration of the northern hemisphere.
Probably because it won't be upto him. Most Nukes in Europe (Apart from UK and France) are owned by the USA, they have complete control over them and can launch without consulting the hosting country as there on US bases. I imagine there is a plan but they not going to make it public for the likes of Putin.

In the UK < 1% of the ppulation will be relatively safe as they will be the lucky ones and taken to safety. The rest of the public will just have to make do as best they can.
Archery1969
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I think Putin maybe having a bad day and about to throw his jelly babies out of his pram.

1. The Telegraph is reporting that Ukraine forces have recovered Russian Krasukha-4 units from the battlefield near Kyiv. They are being flown to the US for examination. These are Russian electronic warfare systems and could enable the west to jam Russian radar, missile systems, drones, figher jets and ships as they all communicate using the same system.

2. Putin’s aide Mr Anatoly Chubais resigns and leaves Russia over opposition to Ukraine invasion.

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I do laugh when the media keeps saying "Sanctions haven't stopped this war yet...", didn't they realise from the start they wouldn't stop it!? It's like continually punishing your naughty child more and more and more, taking all their toys away, no pocket money, no food treats, made to do chores, ... and does that strategy ever work really? No..they just rebel and typically get worse, and even do more horrendous things...!
There needs to be some dialog/mediation some how....
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goat68 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:49 pm
I do laugh when the media keeps saying "Sanctions haven't stopped this war yet...", didn't they realise from the start they wouldn't stop it!? It's like continually punishing your naughty child more and more and more, taking all their toys away, no pocket money, no food treats, made to do chores, ... and does that strategy ever work really? No..they just rebel and typically get worse, and even do more horrendous things...!
There needs to be some dialog/mediation some how....
I'm all for dialogue and as many mediators as can be found. Very curious to me that Turkey has popped up as an arbiter. Quite who can be the arbiter between Nato and Russia is more of a mystery. But I hope the politicians get their fingers out and find a solution. Right now it's crap.
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:18 pm
goat68 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:49 pm
I do laugh when the media keeps saying "Sanctions haven't stopped this war yet...", didn't they realise from the start they wouldn't stop it!? It's like continually punishing your naughty child more and more and more, taking all their toys away, no pocket money, no food treats, made to do chores, ... and does that strategy ever work really? No..they just rebel and typically get worse, and even do more horrendous things...!
There needs to be some dialog/mediation some how....
I'm all for dialogue and as many mediators as can be found. Very curious to me that Turkey has popped up as an arbiter. Quite who can be the arbiter between Nato and Russia is more of a mystery. But I hope the politicians get their fingers out and find a solution. Right now it's crap.
You can't really negotiate with an aggressive force with absolutely no credible grievance and Putin's not serious about diplomacy anyway.
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It will either be WW3 or Putin gets removed from power.
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goat68
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:40 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:18 pm
goat68 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:49 pm
I do laugh when the media keeps saying "Sanctions haven't stopped this war yet...", didn't they realise from the start they wouldn't stop it!? It's like continually punishing your naughty child more and more and more, taking all their toys away, no pocket money, no food treats, made to do chores, ... and does that strategy ever work really? No..they just rebel and typically get worse, and even do more horrendous things...!
There needs to be some dialog/mediation some how....
I'm all for dialogue and as many mediators as can be found. Very curious to me that Turkey has popped up as an arbiter. Quite who can be the arbiter between Nato and Russia is more of a mystery. But I hope the politicians get their fingers out and find a solution. Right now it's crap.
You can't really negotiate with an aggressive force with absolutely no credible grievance and Putin's not serious about diplomacy anyway.
yeah possibly, but that may mean nuclear weapons at dawn .... :shock:
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Russia's expressed an interest in Euro 2028! Didn't hear if it was about hosting it or watching it. :lol:
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Derek27
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The Russian deputy chief idiot says it's only logical that the Ukrainian army would bomb their own towns/civilians. :roll:
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:40 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:18 pm
goat68 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:49 pm
I do laugh when the media keeps saying "Sanctions haven't stopped this war yet...", didn't they realise from the start they wouldn't stop it!? It's like continually punishing your naughty child more and more and more, taking all their toys away, no pocket money, no food treats, made to do chores, ... and does that strategy ever work really? No..they just rebel and typically get worse, and even do more horrendous things...!
There needs to be some dialog/mediation some how....
I'm all for dialogue and as many mediators as can be found. Very curious to me that Turkey has popped up as an arbiter. Quite who can be the arbiter between Nato and Russia is more of a mystery. But I hope the politicians get their fingers out and find a solution. Right now it's crap.
You can't really negotiate with an aggressive force with absolutely no credible grievance and Putin's not serious about diplomacy anyway.
Interesting. I see Putin as a cornered animal (with A LOT of nukes).
The Russian economy is rubbish. They''ve spent vast sums trying to 'protect' themselves against Nato.
My view is Russia is corrupt. The wealthy are not only ripping off Joe Bloggski, they aren't even doing a quarter decent job running the country.
Look at Russia 145 million population $10k per capita. US $63k, Italy $31k, Spain $27k.
Urkaine $3.7k.
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Kai
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Hard to believe it's already been a month, this war truly is defying all expectations.

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mengoneur
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Hi , I apologize if the question may seem off-center the crisis argument. Tonight I had a long discussion with a true friend about the fact that here in Italy, the residence of the Holy Father, our war propaganda, in my opinion, (in fact we are at war too without realizing it) that we are undergoing with the media (social media and tv etc.) Never and I mean never, at least here in Italy, has their voice ever raised in the daily talk-shows on the subject of any commentator who has ever mentioned that pity and horror that war it evokes us for the massacres of Ukrainian men, women and children, although understanding the inevitable underlying motivation, regarding the incredible number of Russian deaths mostly roasted in tanks. Mostly they are 18-20 boys torn from their families and forced to be massacred in the field, whose parents, when it happens, can be returned to them in tatters.
In short, the fact: I discovered that my friend was not horrified, nor did he have the slightest sense of pity for this incredible number of fallen on the "enemy" side, indeed he hopes they are not 10k but 20-30-70k, and they deserve to die because they would go and kill ....
I hope his attitude towards these poor young boys is the result of such media manipulations. That said, I'm curious to know, like a survey, if you want to have your say, what your attitude is about it. I believe that if a large number thought the same way ... goodbye peace and happy third conflict.
Humbly, if you want I would appreciate your opinion, and if you are annoyed it will be enough "no piety ar all for russians deaths" or "piety also for them in the same way as the invaded". Thanks, sorry for your time.
PS hope putin could die asap.
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