Next Prime Minister / Tory Party Leader

[greenmark]

By the end of the next parliament, so that could be 2029.
Both his and Truss's odds haven't budged, so it seems no-one is swayed either way.

So he's really going for the double, being selected as leader and then winning the next election.

What’s the odds on that 1000000 to 1 ?

IMO Sunak is a better bet than Truss. But the great Tory non-MP community clearly profoundly disagrees.
This a kind of democracy. Tory win a landslide, oust their leader and elect someone with the power to swerve policy in any direction she chooses.
Throughout this leadership I haven't heard either say they will honour the election manifesto.
So it's a bit like a democratic Coup d'état. (Thats an oxymoron isn't it?)
Anyway, the next year is going to be a bit lively (and I don't mean Archery1969's WW3).

[Derek27]

So he's really going for the double, being selected as leader and then winning the next election.

What’s the odds on that 1000000 to 1 ?

IMO Sunak is a better bet than Truss. But the great Tory non-MP community clearly profoundly disagrees.
This a kind of democracy. Tory win a landslide, oust their leader and elect someone with the power to swerve policy in any direction she chooses.
Throughout this leadership I haven't heard either say they will honour the election manifesto.
So it's a bit like a democratic Coup d'état. (Thats an oxymoron isn't it?)
Anyway, the next year is going to be a bit lively (and I don't mean Archery1969's WW3).

Governments are elected for a 5-year term. After a couple of years any manifesto is out of date and has little relevance.

[greenmark]

What’s the odds on that 1000000 to 1 ?

IMO Sunak is a better bet than Truss. But the great Tory non-MP community clearly profoundly disagrees.
This a kind of democracy. Tory win a landslide, oust their leader and elect someone with the power to swerve policy in any direction she chooses.
Throughout this leadership I haven't heard either say they will honour the election manifesto.
So it's a bit like a democratic Coup d'état. (Thats an oxymoron isn't it?)
Anyway, the next year is going to be a bit lively (and I don't mean Archery1969's WW3).

Governments are elected for a 5-year term. After a couple of years any manifesto is out of date and has little relevance.

What a bleak view, chief. WTF is the point of voting if not to see a manifesto executed? But I take your point.
I think our politics is in a fog right now. What will emerge is anybody's guess.

[Dallas]

IMO Sunak is a better bet than Truss. But the great Tory non-MP community clearly profoundly disagrees.
This a kind of democracy. Tory win a landslide, oust their leader and elect someone with the power to swerve policy in any direction she chooses.
Throughout this leadership I haven't heard either say they will honour the election manifesto.
So it's a bit like a democratic Coup d'état. (Thats an oxymoron isn't it?)
Anyway, the next year is going to be a bit lively (and I don't mean Archery1969's WW3).

Governments are elected for a 5-year term. After a couple of years any manifesto is out of date and has little relevance.

What a bleak view, chief. WTF is the point of voting if not to see a manifesto executed? But I take your point.
I think our politics is in a fog right now. What will emerge is anybody's guess.

The 5 year fixed term was repealed earlier this year, that's now the max time between election and the incumbent govt can call a GE anytime it wants

After the Brexit dead lock fiasco that's one thing Boris has done right

[greenmark]

Governments are elected for a 5-year term. After a couple of years any manifesto is out of date and has little relevance.

What a bleak view, chief. WTF is the point of voting if not to see a manifesto executed? But I take your point.
I think our politics is in a fog right now. What will emerge is anybody's guess.

The 5 year fixed term was repealed earlier this year, that's now the max time between election and the incumbent govt can call a GE anytime it wants

After the Brexit dead lock fiasco that's one thing Boris has done right

Wasn't aware of that. Thanks. But I reckon Truss will go full term. I can't see her turning this mess around to the point that an election is sensible.
Bottom line for me is that the Govt is going to be blamed by "us" for covid and cost of living issues.
Wheher they are to blame is a moot point.

[Dallas]

What a bleak view, chief. WTF is the point of voting if not to see a manifesto executed? But I take your point.
I think our politics is in a fog right now. What will emerge is anybody's guess.

The 5 year fixed term was repealed earlier this year, that's now the max time between election and the incumbent govt can call a GE anytime it wants

After the Brexit dead lock fiasco that's one thing Boris has done right

Wasn't aware of that. Thanks. But I reckon Truss will go full term. I can't see her turning this mess around to the point that an election is sensible.
Bottom line for me is that the Govt is going to be blamed by "us" for covid and cost of living issues.
Wheher they are to blame is a moot point.

I Think whoever wins will want to leave it as long as possible (which is Jan 2025)

Unless there is a sudden and sharp recovery from inflation and the COL crisis virtually disappears sometime next year they might take a chance on an earlier on

[greenmark]

The 5 year fixed term was repealed earlier this year, that's now the max time between election and the incumbent govt can call a GE anytime it wants

After the Brexit dead lock fiasco that's one thing Boris has done right

Wasn't aware of that. Thanks. But I reckon Truss will go full term. I can't see her turning this mess around to the point that an election is sensible.
Bottom line for me is that the Govt is going to be blamed by "us" for covid and cost of living issues.
Wheher they are to blame is a moot point.

I Think whoever wins will want to leave it as long as possible (which is Jan 2025)

Unless there is a sudden and sharp recovery from inflation and the COL crisis virtually disappears sometime next year they might take a chance on an earlier on

Lol Cost of living has become an acronym.
I hope that the speed that information and opinion whizzes around the globe turns out to be a good thing. Hell, I've just gone all Hippy!

[Dallas]

Wasn't aware of that. Thanks. But I reckon Truss will go full term. I can't see her turning this mess around to the point that an election is sensible.
Bottom line for me is that the Govt is going to be blamed by "us" for covid and cost of living issues.
Wheher they are to blame is a moot point.

I Think whoever wins will want to leave it as long as possible (which is Jan 2025)

Unless there is a sudden and sharp recovery from inflation and the COL crisis virtually disappears sometime next year they might take a chance on an earlier on

Lol Cost of living has become an acronym.
I hope that the speed that information and opinion whizzes around the globe turns out to be a good thing. Hell, I've just gone all Hippy!

[The Silk Run]

I still think the military should be running this country. Put these politicians and police in their place. With a simple manifest to serve the public with integrity.

[Derek27]

IMO Sunak is a better bet than Truss. But the great Tory non-MP community clearly profoundly disagrees.
This a kind of democracy. Tory win a landslide, oust their leader and elect someone with the power to swerve policy in any direction she chooses.
Throughout this leadership I haven't heard either say they will honour the election manifesto.
So it's a bit like a democratic Coup d'état. (Thats an oxymoron isn't it?)
Anyway, the next year is going to be a bit lively (and I don't mean Archery1969's WW3).

Governments are elected for a 5-year term. After a couple of years any manifesto is out of date and has little relevance.

What a bleak view, chief. WTF is the point of voting if not to see a manifesto executed? But I take your point.
I think our politics is in a fog right now. What will emerge is anybody's guess.

Put it another way, anyone who's stupid enough to say that they'll lower taxes or complete HS2 in five years time regardless of a nuclear holocaust occurring in six months shouldn't get elected in the first place.

[Derek27]

I still think the military should be running this country. Put these politicians and police in their place. With a simple manifest to serve the public with integrity.

Makes you wonder what the point of democracy is when idiots like Johnson and Trump can get democratically elected!

[Derek27]

Truss says she will never impose another lockdown (regardless of scientific advice or thousands of people dying).

[Archery1969]

Truss says she will never impose another lockdown (regardless of scientific advice or thousands of people dying).

She was 100% against the lockdowns in the first place. She thought and still does that Swedens model was the correct one and would have saved the country £500 billion. If a few hundred thousand died, manly old or those with underlying health issues then it’s a price worth paying.

I don’t think people really understand how far to the right her views are. If people thought Mrs T was bad then they ain’t seen nothing yet.

Greenmark and others will say I am a war mongering nut job but Truss is more likely to start dropping bombs than BJ ever was and you can include Trump in that statement too.

I like her allot but I think she may end up being very dangerous in power.

She will also not think twice about telling the EU to fcuk off if she has too.

I think the country could be in for a bit of a shock!!

[greenmark]

I still think the military should be running this country. Put these politicians and police in their place. With a simple manifest to serve the public with integrity.

Please assure me that you're joking there.

[greenmark]

What happened in the latest debate? Truss has moved from 1.11 to 1.17. Wasn't expecting that.
Did she threaten to outllaw Corgi's?