Dallas : How can you track wins/losses of a strategy

[sniffer66]

Ok, I'll wade in

I'm trying to understand your strategy here. So, you have a selection method that picks x number of runners to dutch in a race (could be any number of runners). That method is ev+, but you are trying to reduce losing runs by doing y, therefore increasing profit.

So "y", is when you are hitting a loser your entries are paused until...what ? Are you using the outcomes of the missed races to predict when to start entering again ? Are you looking for a dip below your SR% and hoping it's going to return to mean ? Or do you have backtest data on the previous max consecutive losses ? Or something else ?

I'm still with the other guys on zero correlation between each race outcome, so cannot see how the above could work (if that's what you are doing), but curious what your methodology is.

If you get a meaningful answer to that I'll quit trading.

Just trying to add some clarity

[NotBothered]

No Derek I have been doing this for years using other software

Like I said Dutching I have been doing for 3 weeks and it is now 1,000 a day

Sorry but I am wasting my time here -- sure like you said some of the understanding issue is my fault I expect people to have a certain knowledge - but also it is not understanding what is being written.

When I write I am winning almost every race I bet - and you tell me what happens if you hit 50% -- well this is your not understanding not mine.

Like I said I wanted to participate and go through other strategies like building working form models and things - but it is a total waste of my time.

It is better that you guys help new users and tell them how to make money and what the thought process towards various things should be -- because I am out.

I do wish you the best.

[Derek27]

I really feel sorry for the average user of Bet Angel - because they almost have no chance to make money using the software -- because most posters - post general advice which means nothing.

If people on here could grow tomatoes before the gardening thread, and we can cook omelettes with no omelette thread, why wouldn't people make money with Bet Angel even if this forum didn't exist?

You're very simple-minded NotBothered. A forum is for conversing and engaging rather than simply telling people what you're doing and expecting people to worship you.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly was your job in finance? What did your job involve? Did it require communicating with other people?

[sniffer66]

No Derek I have been doing this for years using other software

Like I said Dutching I have been doing for 3 weeks and it is now 1,000 a day

Sorry but I am wasting my time here -- sure like you said some of the understanding issue is my fault I expect people to have a certain knowledge - but also it is not understanding what is being written.

When I write I am winning almost every race I bet - and you tell me what happens if you hit 50% -- well this is your not understanding not mine.

Like I said I wanted to participate and go through other strategies like building working form models and things - but it is a total waste of my time.

It is better that you guys help new users and tell them how to make money and what the thought process towards various things should be -- because I am out.

I do wish you the best.

Well, if you can answer my question post a few posts up, it would go a long way to help people understand what your method is. Selection method is obviously your own, and rightly not to be shared, but tell us what the reasoning is behind the entry pause, and then the re-entry

[Derek27]

Ok, I'll wade in

I'm trying to understand your strategy here. So, you have a selection method that picks x number of runners to dutch in a race (could be any number of runners). That method is ev+, but you are trying to reduce losing runs by doing y, therefore increasing profit.

So "y", is when you are hitting a loser your entries are paused until...what ? Are you using the outcomes of the missed races to predict when to start entering again ? Are you looking for a dip below your SR% and hoping it's going to return to mean ? Or do you have backtest data on the previous max consecutive losses ? Or something else ?

I'm still with the other guys on zero correlation between each race outcome, so cannot see how the above could work (if that's what you are doing), but curious what your methodology is.

If you get a meaningful answer to that I'll quit trading.

Just trying to add some clarity

It's been a long night.

[jimibt]

No Derek I have been doing this for years using other software

Like I said Dutching I have been doing for 3 weeks and it is now 1,000 a day

Sorry but I am wasting my time here -- sure like you said some of the understanding issue is my fault I expect people to have a certain knowledge - but also it is not understanding what is being written.

When I write I am winning almost every race I bet - and you tell me what happens if you hit 50% -- well this is your not understanding not mine.

Like I said I wanted to participate and go through other strategies like building working form models and things - but it is a total waste of my time.

It is better that you guys help new users and tell them how to make money and what the thought process towards various things should be -- because I am out.

I do wish you the best.

Well, if you can answer my question post a few posts up, it would go a long way to help people understand what your method is. Selection method is obviously your own, and rightly not to be shared, but tell us what the reasoning is behind the entry pause, and then the re-entry

i'm wondering if maybe a small matrix of race/market contenders for say the next 6-7 races put up in advance would be useful with a brief explanation (without giving away the details of the edge) of the selection rationale. then later (once those 6-7 races have finished) a revised matrix which shows the actual races that were traded and a brief explanation as to what changed in real-time and led to any particular races been avoided at the last minute.

i know that this is probably the secret sauce, but would be great to get a handle on the way this differs from the mainstream dutching systems that have been trialled and used since adam was a boy.

[Derek27]

No Derek I have been doing this for years using other software

Like I said Dutching I have been doing for 3 weeks and it is now 1,000 a day

Sorry but I am wasting my time here -- sure like you said some of the understanding issue is my fault I expect people to have a certain knowledge - but also it is not understanding what is being written.

When I write I am winning almost every race I bet - and you tell me what happens if you hit 50% -- well this is your not understanding not mine.

Like I said I wanted to participate and go through other strategies like building working form models and things - but it is a total waste of my time.

It is better that you guys help new users and tell them how to make money and what the thought process towards various things should be -- because I am out.

I do wish you the best.

I told you before NotBothered, if you're going to reply to somebody quote them, you lazy git!

I see now, your username explains it, you're not bothered to do anything like quote, answer or reply to somebody, that makes sense.

I realise there's probably a language barrier and English isn't your first language, but when you say "sure like you said some of the understanding issue is my fault I expect people to have a certain knowledge - but also it is not understanding what is being written", it's not clear whether it's your fault that you expected people to have certain knowledge, whether "people" are at fault for not having the knowledge you were expecting, or what the fuck does " it is not understanding what is being written" mean? What do you mean by IT?

If you're having difficulty explaining yourself, most people would bend over backwards to help, if you're polite. But when you're rude, arrogant, elitist, blame others for not understanding you when you can't even put a flipping sentence together, and worst of all, ignore people who take the time to talk to you and ask innocent questions, don't expect any sympathy.

[Derek27]

When I write I am winning almost every race I bet - and you tell me what happens if you hit 50% -- well this is your not understanding not mine.

I didn't tell you what happens when you hit 50%, that was a mathematical analogy which you obviously didn't understand. You seem to have the understanding of a 10-year-old, the communication ability of a 3-year-old and the listening ability of an embryo!

[NotBothered]

Derek - you have shown yourself for who you truly are

When you struggle to understand something - it is someone elses fault not your own

you should re-read your own posts and really think to yourself - is this the person you want to be.

Really you can quit posting here - because I am done with this forum --- You seem to think your the judge + jury of every post .. sorry you are not

Like I said you are adding absolutely zero value to the forum with your communication style and while I thought it was some what amusing watching yourself embarrass yourself - I am done with it.

It is totally the forums loss - because unlike many I am actually prepared to talk about how to win.

Ok cheers good luck.

[Kai]

To be fair, you were warned not to engage with Derek if you value your sanity, he'll keep going all night and will be there first thing in the morning to pester you some more

But obviously there are other people intrigued by your approach as well, who posted their own questions, perhaps you should be engaging with them instead, ideally with the use of the forum quote feature.

I'm okay with the idea of others not fully understanding one's strategy or approach etc, but not sure I understand why anyone would expect software vendors to directly provide working strategies to their customers, surely this concept goes against the very competitive nature of this industry.

[jimibt]

To be fair, you were warned not to engage with Derek if you value your sanity, he'll keep going all night and will be there first thing in the morning to pester you some more

But obviously there are other people intrigued by your approach as well, who posted their own questions, perhaps you should be engaging with them instead, ideally with the use of the forum quote feature.

I'm okay with the idea of others not fully understanding one's strategy or approach etc, but not sure I understand why anyone would expect software vendors to directly provide working strategies to their customers, surely this concept goes against the very competitive nature of this industry.

confrontational!!!

[sniffer66]

To be fair, you were warned not to engage with Derek if you value your sanity, he'll keep going all night and will be there first thing in the morning to pester you some more

But obviously there are other people intrigued by your approach as well, who posted their own questions, perhaps you should be engaging with them instead, ideally with the use of the forum quote feature.

I'm okay with the idea of others not fully understanding one's strategy or approach etc, but not sure I understand why anyone would expect software vendors to directly provide working strategies to their customers, surely this concept goes against the very competitive nature of this industry.

This.

Lots of people on here would be happy to lend you their tools. But they aren't going to build the cabinet for you.

Which reminds me of something my old Dad once said to me: "Son, as one door closes, another one opens"
Great man my dad. Terrible carpenter....

[decomez6]

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......Tease about nothing , then pretend Not bothered.

[Derek27]

Derek - you have shown yourself for who you truly are

When you struggle to understand something - it is someone elses fault not your own

you should re-read your own posts and really think to yourself - is this the person you want to be.

Really you can quit posting here - because I am done with this forum --- You seem to think your the judge + jury of every post .. sorry you are not

Like I said you are adding absolutely zero value to the forum with your communication style and while I thought it was some what amusing watching yourself embarrass yourself - I am done with it.

It is totally the forums loss - because unlike many I am actually prepared to talk about how to win.

Ok cheers good luck.

Fair enough. Whoever's fault it is I can't understand a word you say. I'll at least agree with you on this.

(many people tell me I suck at explaining things so I will think on it and see if I can explain it more clearly)

[elofan0]

has this post come to an end i wonder