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Euler
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I feel the need to interject some comedy: -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8

My Engerlish would be much better if they taught like this at my school.
princemarkie
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WTAF has happened here this rule has been working all day then 300 loss in 4 races...help please Image...the rule is the lay betting bot
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Derek27
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princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:20 pm
WTAF ha happened here this rule has been working all day then 300 loss in 4 races...help please Image...the rule is the lay betting bot
You appear to be risking £100 to win £10 to £20. Most of these bets will win, but as you're risking substantially more than you can gain, you're always vulnerable to heavy losses.

I would advise you to use smaller stakes when testing new strategies. How are you choosing the horses you lay?
Michael5482
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princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:20 pm
WTAF has happened here this rule has been working all day then 300 loss in 4 races...help please Image...the rule is the lay betting bot
Not sure on your bot, looks like it's working fine but you've got your liability set to £100 and 3 of your selections won. I more noticed on your 1st web browser tab the YouTube one shows 'how to make money'. One thing I've learnt very quickly is making money is just an output of good, efficient trading along with your own psychology.
princemarkie
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it is set up for any selection https://youtu.be/leYeMaIB6xA
princemarkie
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Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:39 pm
princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:20 pm
WTAF has happened here this rule has been working all day then 300 loss in 4 races...help please Image...the rule is the lay betting bot
Not sure on your bot, looks like it's working fine but you've got your liability set to £100 and 3 of your selections won. I more noticed on your 1st web browser tab the YouTube one shows 'how to make money'. One thing I've learnt very quickly is making money is just an output of good, efficient trading along with your own psychology.
is there anything to add to this bot to protect this from happening
Last edited by princemarkie on Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Michael5482
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princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:46 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:39 pm
princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:20 pm
WTAF has happened here this rule has been working all day then 300 loss in 4 races...help please Image...the rule is the lay betting bot
Not sure on your bot, looks like it's working fine but you've got your liability set to £100 and 3 of your selections won. I more noticed on your 1st web browser tab the YouTube one shows 'how to make money'. One thing I've learnt very quickly is making money is just an output of good, efficient trading along with your own psychology.
2 of the 3 losing trades were not winners
I've just checked on Sporting Life all 3 won
princemarkie
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Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:51 pm
princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:46 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:39 pm


Not sure on your bot, looks like it's working fine but you've got your liability set to £100 and 3 of your selections won. I more noticed on your 1st web browser tab the YouTube one shows 'how to make money'. One thing I've learnt very quickly is making money is just an output of good, efficient trading along with your own psychology.
2 of the 3 losing trades were not winners
I've just checked on Sporting Life all 3 won
yes they did...sorry...can anything be done to cover that outcome
Michael5482
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princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:56 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:51 pm
princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:46 pm


2 of the 3 losing trades were not winners
I've just checked on Sporting Life all 3 won
yes they did...sorry...can anything be done to cover that outcome
No because you'll be chasing losses. Best thing to do is follow Derek's sound advice and lower your liability in your rules file to a amount your comfortable with
princemarkie
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fair comment but i am not gonna lose sleep over a 100 quid....typical...find 3 winners and lose :roll:
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Derek27
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Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:39 pm
princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:20 pm
WTAF has happened here this rule has been working all day then 300 loss in 4 races...help please Image...the rule is the lay betting bot
One thing I've learnt very quickly is making money is just an output of good, efficient trading along with your own psychology.
I noticed that as well, quite striking, but I forgot to comment. :)
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princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:41 pm
it is set up for any selection https://youtu.be/leYeMaIB6xA
I haven't watched the video but I think it's just an example of how to set up automation. You need to apply your own judgement, what races to use it on, what horses, etc.
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Derek27
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princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:46 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:39 pm
princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:20 pm
WTAF has happened here this rule has been working all day then 300 loss in 4 races...help please Image...the rule is the lay betting bot
Not sure on your bot, looks like it's working fine but you've got your liability set to £100 and 3 of your selections won. I more noticed on your 1st web browser tab the YouTube one shows 'how to make money'. One thing I've learnt very quickly is making money is just an output of good, efficient trading along with your own psychology.
is there anything to add to this bot to protect this from happening
If you don't want to lose if a horse wins, you don't lay it!

When you place a bet you have to accept you lose money when the bet loses. Betting is all about devising a strategy of winning more than you lose, not eliminating your losses altogether.
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Derek27
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princemarkie wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:02 pm
fair comment but i am not gonna lose sleep over a 100 quid....typical...find 3 winners and lose :roll:
You didn't find 3 winners, they were 3 losing bets because you were betting on them not winning.

Two pieces of advice I can give you. Pick a sport that you know and are familiar with and don't start with a strategy that bets long odds on or lays at long odds against. Those bets you were placing need to win about 7 times in 8 to make a profit, which isn't gonna be easy.
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ShaunWhite
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:20 pm
which isn't gonna be easy.
That's an understatement.

OP, what are you doing to make sure you're selecting horses that have a better or worse chance than their odds suggest?
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