Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:10 pmIt's like arranging dog fights and having a vet present.![]()

Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:10 pmIt's like arranging dog fights and having a vet present.![]()
Sounds a bit like this.
Agreed Shaun but you have to have constituencies otherwise it becomes a pseudo referendum for a party/leader with I guess MP's appointed like in the Euro elections based on percent total vote.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 12:48 pmIt's hard to believe in democracy when even with a big poll lead the district and parish seats in my area are uncontested. It's so Tory you could put Gary Glitter on the ballot and he'd win. In other areas in sure there's Tories who feel their vote is equally irrelevent so it's not a partisan comment.
Least worst really as it is. Appointed MPs wouldn't necessarily have the same local connections. And there literally wouldn't be a way to vote someone out if people were selected by the party to just go and reign somewhere.firlandsfarm wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 1:48 pmAgreed Shaun but you have to have constituencies otherwise it becomes a pseudo referendum for a party/leader with I guess MP's appointed like in the Euro elections based on percent total vote.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 12:48 pmIt's hard to believe in democracy when even with a big poll lead the district and parish seats in my area are uncontested. It's so Tory you could put Gary Glitter on the ballot and he'd win. In other areas in sure there's Tories who feel their vote is equally irrelevent so it's not a partisan comment.
As far as I'm concerned, we'll be a cashless society when kebab shops start accepting cards. Then I can do away with it altogether.
We managed before. Only cash should be allowed imo, people know what they're spending then instead or just a bleep and then debt, and banks and god knows who aren't tracking everything you do.
I'm actually in favour of cash being retained and widely used - I just meant there should be an electronic option in a place like a pharmacy.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 6:57 pmWe managed before. Only cash should be allowed imo, people know what they're spending then instead or just a bleep and then debt, and banks and god knows who aren't tracking everything you do.
Being Devil's Advocate there as usualand I do sympathise really, I thought you were the same generation as me where you were programmed to never leave the house without some change for the phonebox and an emergency £20 note in the glovebox? I get the opposite though, I only carry cash and on a recent trip to London I couldn't buy anything with it !
OK, didn't realise "uncontested" ... that's unacceptable, someone should stand.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 3:33 pmWhat disappoints me more is the ward being uncontested, not even a chance to express an opinion even if it is a minority one.
I havent bought cigs or paid UK duty on them for years. Just meet my Newhaven to Dieppe man in the pub on a Friday and get my months supplies at half the cost.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:53 amWell after saying we shouldn't bet, freedom to smoke is under threat too (but they're too chicken to ban drinking). But the argument about the cost to the NHS is bollx.
It is estimated that smoking has cost the NHS in England £2.6 billion per year
Tobacco duties are levied on purchases of cigarettes, hand-rolled tobacco, cigars and other forms of tobacco. In 2023-24 we estimate that tobacco duties will raise to £10.4 billion
So Tories are interfering with gambling freedom, Labour proposing interfering with smoking freedom. There is no democracy. And who's paying for all the extra pension and elderly care for all these people living till they're ancient?