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Derek27
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Ben Wallace advised Zelenskyy to demonstrate more gratitude if he wants the West's continued support.

That's exactly what I was thinking when Zelenskyy blasted NATO as "absurd" for not giving him a timescale to join. He can't give a deadline for when the war will end. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:40 pm
Ben Wallace advised Zelenskyy to demonstrate more gratitude if he wants the West's continued support.

That's exactly what I was thinking when Zelenskyy blasted NATO as "absurd" for not giving him a timescale to join. He can't give a deadline for when the war will end. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!
UK defence secretary told Kyiv 'I’m not Amazon' over weapons request

:lol:
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Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:26 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:40 pm
Ben Wallace advised Zelenskyy to demonstrate more gratitude if he wants the West's continued support.

That's exactly what I was thinking when Zelenskyy blasted NATO as "absurd" for not giving him a timescale to join. He can't give a deadline for when the war will end. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!
UK defence secretary told Kyiv 'I’m not Amazon' over weapons request

:lol:
Apparently, he spent 11 hours travelling to meet Zelenskyy only to be given a list of required equiptment. Even Amazon let you order online. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:40 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:26 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:40 pm
Ben Wallace advised Zelenskyy to demonstrate more gratitude if he wants the West's continued support.

That's exactly what I was thinking when Zelenskyy blasted NATO as "absurd" for not giving him a timescale to join. He can't give a deadline for when the war will end. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!
UK defence secretary told Kyiv 'I’m not Amazon' over weapons request

:lol:
Apparently, he spent 11 hours travelling to meet Zelenskyy only to be given a list of required equiptment. Even Amazon let you order online. :lol:
:lol:
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Derek27
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Zelenskyy: We are grateful to the United Kingdom, the United Kingdom is our partner. Maybe the minister wants something special. :lol:

I'd settle for a photo of Lesia. :)
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TBF Zelensky has been manipulating his allies very well indeed. This criticism of NATO's reluctance to welcome Ukraine into the fold is probably his first faux pas.
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A senior Russian general has been killed in a missile strike in Ukraine, Russian sources have said.

Lt Gen Oleg Tsokov is said to have died in a strike on a hotel housing Russian military commanders in Berdyansk, on Ukraine's occupied southern coast.
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Derek27
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Cluster munitions have arrived in Ukraine.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66185545

A top Russian general says he has been removed from his post in Ukraine after telling military chiefs the truth about the dire situation on the front line.

Maj Gen Ivan Popov was the commander of the 58th Army, which has been fighting in the southern Zaporizhzhia region.

In a voice message, Maj Gen Popov said he raised questions about high casualty rate and lack of artillery support.

"It was necessary either to keep quiet and be a coward or to say it the way it is," he said.
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greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:22 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66185545

A top Russian general says he has been removed from his post in Ukraine after telling military chiefs the truth about the dire situation on the front line.

Maj Gen Ivan Popov was the commander of the 58th Army, which has been fighting in the southern Zaporizhzhia region.

In a voice message, Maj Gen Popov said he raised questions about high casualty rate and lack of artillery support.

"It was necessary either to keep quiet and be a coward or to say it the way it is," he said.
I was just going to say that, he complained about the lack of radar to detect incoming munitions as well.

I didn't see the spelling of his name but I thought it was General Pop-Off. :lol:
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greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:22 pm
"It was necessary either to keep quiet and be a coward or to say it the way it is," he said.
I hope he stays away from open windows!
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:26 pm
greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:22 pm
"It was necessary either to keep quiet and be a coward or to say it the way it is," he said.
I hope he stays away from open windows!
The Ukraine/Russia (or is that Putin) situation gets more complex as time goes by. Just getting the first inkling that people are beginning to object. But Putin is staying firmly in that background. Wagner and now a senior General have criticised Putin's regime's approach. Are the vultures circling over Putin? Reminds me a bit of the rebellion within the German military against the Nazi's.
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:29 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:26 pm
greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:22 pm
"It was necessary either to keep quiet and be a coward or to say it the way it is," he said.
I hope he stays away from open windows!
The Ukraine/Russia (or is that Putin) situation gets more complex as time goes by. Just getting the first inkling that people are beginning to object. But Putin is staying firmly in that background. Wagner and now a senior General have criticised Putin's regime's approach. Are the vultures circling over Putin? Reminds me a bit of the rebellion within the German military against the Nazi's.
Nah, more like his peregrine falcons for hunting.
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Derek27
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Ben Wally considering quitting parliament by the next election. Looks like Brexit has cost him the job as NATO secretary general, with Macron insisting only an EU nation can fill the role. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:14 pm
Ben Wally considering quitting parliament by the next election. Looks like Brexit has cost him the job as NATO secretary general, with Macron insisting only an EU nation can fill the role. :)
Fuck France. They delivered Exocet missiles during the falklands war to Argentina. Utter Scum bags.
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