UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

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Derek27
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Sunak to issue 100 licences to extract oil and gas from the North Sea.

Nice one Rishie. That will get up the JSO nutters noses. :D
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firlandsfarm
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Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:49 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:08 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:14 pm
has absolutely no effect on 99.999999% of the general population.
Well let's wait to see how many sign up to Farage's call for the unbanked and in particular let's see how many are ordinary people trying to run a family business. Especially as the claimed 0.000001% that is does affect in a population of 68,000,000 equates to 0.68 of a person! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nothing to wait and see for. ,,, it doesn't affect the general public. Might get a few people making unsubstantiated claims in The Sun or some right wing rag with compo faces that's' about it.
Hi, I thought you might be interested in this from the beloved Grauniad!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -every-day

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Emmson
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Granting these new oil and gas licenses is the right move for a variety of reasons and I'm annoyed that Kier Starmer is against, maybe its posturing and he secretly does support them.
Michael5482
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:08 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:49 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:08 am

Well let's wait to see how many sign up to Farage's call for the unbanked and in particular let's see how many are ordinary people trying to run a family business. Especially as the claimed 0.000001% that is does affect in a population of 68,000,000 equates to 0.68 of a person! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nothing to wait and see for. ,,, it doesn't affect the general public. Might get a few people making unsubstantiated claims in The Sun or some right wing rag with compo faces that's' about it.
Hi, I thought you might be interested in this from the beloved Grauniad!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -every-day

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Doesn't give political reasons for closures which is what Farage's was closed for which I disagree with.

More or less what I said people claiming foul when they've probably been picked up by AML algorithms nothing to do with politics and came from a left wing rag instead of a right wing one. People call foul when they think there hard done by when in reality they know the T&C's that banks can close an account anytime they like and don't have to give a reason.

That's the difference some people like to moan claiming there hard done by, others get on with it and find another way like opening another bank account.
greenmark
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Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:17 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:08 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:49 pm

Nothing to wait and see for. ,,, it doesn't affect the general public. Might get a few people making unsubstantiated claims in The Sun or some right wing rag with compo faces that's' about it.
Hi, I thought you might be interested in this from the beloved Grauniad!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -every-day

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Doesn't give political reasons for closures which is what Farage's was closed for which I disagree with.

More or less what I said people claiming foul when they've probably been picked up by AML algorithms nothing to do with politics and came from a left wing rag instead of a right wing one. People call foul when they think there hard done by when in reality they know the T&C's that banks can close an account anytime they like and don't have to give a reason.

That's the difference some people like to moan claiming there hard done by, others get on with it and find another way like opening another bank account.
I guess for people that haven't had a 'skirmish' with a bank, they think banks are the epitome of ethics. I can tell you they are ratbags. So long as you have money and regular inputs to that account they're pussycats. I remember being summoned by my bank after I was made redundant and they confiscated my chequebook. :shock: Needless to say when I got my next job I moved banks. For completeness, that bank was Midland which I believe became part of HSBC.
I moved to Halifax and have had no problems, but then I've had no money problems since.
My sister is with RBS, is self employed, earns £50k a year and had to argue and jump through hoops to get a £30k loan to refurb her home (which is mortgage free and worth 150k easily).
The banks never get it right. They're either bombarding you with offers of loans or whacking you round the head when you're going through a difficult spell.
I worked in that sector and IMO the top level are deeply cynical scum.
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:07 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:54 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:54 pm

Oh dear, sometimes a remark can be too subtle for some, especially those who's use of language is limited to baseless insults! Let me help you, I will explain: my "unfounded allegation" was to show that anybody can say anything about anybody but I guess that was wasted on you. And as for the extraordinarily thick, do you have a mirror?
Hahaha! Thinking that a mirror would be of any use in gauging stupidity or otherwise is, as I’m sure even you now realise, in itself pretty stupid.

You left school with very few qualifications and whilst you’ve done okay for yourself, given your limitations, you’re clearly out of your depth. It’s obvious from the way you write and struggle to form arguments.

Just another dumb boomer.
OMG did you study intently to be able to write such drivel or does it comer naturally?
I’ve studied a lot, formally and informally, and continue to do so, fully aware that as the island of my knowledge grows, so expands the shore of my ignorance.

Which, come to think of it, probably explains why I find any discussion with you to be like talking to a pleb on a pebble.
greenmark
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:08 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:07 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:54 pm


Hahaha! Thinking that a mirror would be of any use in gauging stupidity or otherwise is, as I’m sure even you now realise, in itself pretty stupid.

You left school with very few qualifications and whilst you’ve done okay for yourself, given your limitations, you’re clearly out of your depth. It’s obvious from the way you write and struggle to form arguments.

Just another dumb boomer.
OMG did you study intently to be able to write such drivel or does it comer naturally?
I’ve studied a lot, formally and informally, and continue to do so, fully aware that as the island of my knowledge grows, so expands the shore of my ignorance.

Which, come to think of it, probably explains why I find any discussion with you to be like talking to a pleb on a pebble.
Despite Plebeians being the foundation of the Roman empire. Describing someone as a "pleb" has become a pretty insulting pejorative. Although it isn't filtered by the moderating it's a very bad way to describe someone if you want to have a reasoned discussion.
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:08 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:07 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:54 pm


Hahaha! Thinking that a mirror would be of any use in gauging stupidity or otherwise is, as I’m sure even you now realise, in itself pretty stupid.

You left school with very few qualifications and whilst you’ve done okay for yourself, given your limitations, you’re clearly out of your depth. It’s obvious from the way you write and struggle to form arguments.

Just another dumb boomer.
OMG did you study intently to be able to write such drivel or does it comer naturally?
I’ve studied a lot, formally and informally, and continue to do so, fully aware that as the island of my knowledge grows, so expands the shore of my ignorance.

Which, come to think of it, probably explains why I find any discussion with you to be like talking to a pleb on a pebble.
Well I'm impressed, such a demonstration of your high intelligence. The way you show your self importance and rely on insults to try and make a point is very impressive.. Tell me is a Degree in Drivel a BA, BSc or maybe a BD?
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Derek27
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I've always wondered why it's taken so long to develop carbon capture technology, but it seems they're getting a move on with it now.

It's not that difficult. You just hold a plastic bag over the chimney. :)
arbitrage16
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:04 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:08 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:07 pm

OMG did you study intently to be able to write such drivel or does it comer naturally?
I’ve studied a lot, formally and informally, and continue to do so, fully aware that as the island of my knowledge grows, so expands the shore of my ignorance.

Which, come to think of it, probably explains why I find any discussion with you to be like talking to a pleb on a pebble.
Well I'm impressed, such a demonstration of your high intelligence. The way you show your self importance and rely on insults to try and make a point is very impressive.. Tell me is a Degree in Drivel a BA, BSc or maybe a BD?
Doesn’t take a lot to impress you I note.

Low level sarcasm followed by a rehash of a joke you’ve already made, enjoy your pebble, Pleb.
arbitrage16
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:25 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:08 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:07 pm

OMG did you study intently to be able to write such drivel or does it comer naturally?
I’ve studied a lot, formally and informally, and continue to do so, fully aware that as the island of my knowledge grows, so expands the shore of my ignorance.

Which, come to think of it, probably explains why I find any discussion with you to be like talking to a pleb on a pebble.
it's a very bad way to describe someone if you want to have a reasoned discussion.
Stopped being one of those a long time ago, I’ve become a pig wrestler
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firlandsfarm
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Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:17 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:08 am
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:49 pm

Nothing to wait and see for. ,,, it doesn't affect the general public. Might get a few people making unsubstantiated claims in The Sun or some right wing rag with compo faces that's' about it.
Hi, I thought you might be interested in this from the beloved Grauniad!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -every-day

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Doesn't give political reasons for closures which is what Farage's was closed for which I disagree with.

More or less what I said people claiming foul when they've probably been picked up by AML algorithms nothing to do with politics and came from a left wing rag instead of a right wing one. People call foul when they think there hard done by when in reality they know the T&C's that banks can close an account anytime they like and don't have to give a reason.

That's the difference some people like to moan claiming there hard done by, others get on with it and find another way like opening another bank account.
Political reasons? I'm against any account closures without disclosing a justified reason. The banks (and life) have redesigned the need for people to have a bank account and their T&C's need to be revisited for life as it is today.

And no, it may not be possible to open another bank account. Farage claims to have applied to 10 other banks and been refused and don't forget the affect it would have on your credit record/score. A common question is "Have you ever had an account closed?" To answer "Yes" will hardly score you any points in your favour. And every time your credit record is checked it leaves a footprint of interest/activity.

To have a bank account today is more important than having a job ... there is no banking equivalent of Universal Credit.

Oh, BTW, GB News published the same content. So right as well as left.
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Emmson wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:45 am
Granting these new oil and gas licenses is the right move for a variety of reasons and I'm annoyed that Kier Starmer is against, maybe its posturing and he secretly does support them.
Sir Kier is too faced. Labour said they wont cancel the new licenses when/if they win the election.

He is starting to sound more slippery than Boris by the day.
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Farage told he can keep his Coutts bank accounts.

What a climb down.

:lol:
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:27 am
Emmson wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:45 am
Granting these new oil and gas licenses is the right move for a variety of reasons and I'm annoyed that Kier Starmer is against, maybe its posturing and he secretly does support them.
Sir Kier is too faced. Labour said they wont cancel the new licenses when/if they win the election.

He is starting to sound more slippery than Boris by the day.
Just because you think something's a bad idea doesn't mean you have to reverse it once it's implemented. It's like discovering you've taken the long route home. You may be beyond the point where it's worth turning back.
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