UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

[jamesedwards]

But out of all of them I would say the Police are most at fault with this case which could/should result in Greater Manchester Police being disbanded asap.

This seems a sensible, reasoned, approach.

[Archery1969]

But out of all of them I would say the Police are most at fault with this case which could/should result in Greater Manchester Police being disbanded asap.

This seems a sensible, reasoned, approach.

The problem is, if a court case comes out of this then former CPS directors, Judges, Police officers, lawyers and doctors may all have to give evidence and be cross examined under oath.

I suspect this is why Starmer and others are keeping their mouths shut as they don’t want their reputation being questioned in court 6 months before an election.

Of course there have been injustices before but this one looks to be on a huge scale involving many liars and people turning a blind eye.

It could throw the entire UK justice system into chaos with all cases over the last 30 years being re-examined by ambulance chasing lawyers at courts of appeal.

Think about it, nobody wants this coming out in public.

[Derek27]

But out of all of them I would say the Police are most at fault with this case which could/should result in Greater Manchester Police being disbanded asap.

This seems a sensible, reasoned, approach.

The problem is, if a court case comes out of this then former CPS directors, Judges, Police officers, lawyers and doctors may all have to give evidence and be cross examined under oath.

I suspect this is why Starmer and others are keeping their mouths shut as they don’t want their reputation being questioned in court 6 months before an election.

Of course there have been injustices before but this one looks to be on a huge scale involving many liars and people turning a blind eye.

It could throw the entire UK justice system into chaos with all cases over the last 30 years being re-examined by ambulance chasing lawyers at courts of appeal.

Think about it, nobody wants this coming out in public.

I don't see anything "big" about this. It strikes me as a run-of-the-mill injustice that happens all the time.

The big question for Manchester police is, why has two hours of CCTV gone missing at the time when a woman claims to be raped while in police custody?

[Archery1969]

This seems a sensible, reasoned, approach.

The problem is, if a court case comes out of this then former CPS directors, Judges, Police officers, lawyers and doctors may all have to give evidence and be cross examined under oath.

I suspect this is why Starmer and others are keeping their mouths shut as they don’t want their reputation being questioned in court 6 months before an election.

Of course there have been injustices before but this one looks to be on a huge scale involving many liars and people turning a blind eye.

It could throw the entire UK justice system into chaos with all cases over the last 30 years being re-examined by ambulance chasing lawyers at courts of appeal.

Think about it, nobody wants this coming out in public.

I don't see anything "big" about this. It strikes me as a run-of-the-mill injustice that happens all the time.

The big question for Manchester police is, why has two hours of CCTV gone missing at the time when a woman claims to be raped while in police custody?

3 years into his sentence DNA evidenced proved it wasn’t him. That would have been given to the defence team, Police, Parole Board and CPS for review. Nobody did anything.

Allot of people have questions to answer and there is now a call for a public enquiry which could mean the end of some people’s careers, liberty, pensions and financial stability.

[Derek27]

The problem is, if a court case comes out of this then former CPS directors, Judges, Police officers, lawyers and doctors may all have to give evidence and be cross examined under oath.

I suspect this is why Starmer and others are keeping their mouths shut as they don’t want their reputation being questioned in court 6 months before an election.

Of course there have been injustices before but this one looks to be on a huge scale involving many liars and people turning a blind eye.

It could throw the entire UK justice system into chaos with all cases over the last 30 years being re-examined by ambulance chasing lawyers at courts of appeal.

Think about it, nobody wants this coming out in public.

I don't see anything "big" about this. It strikes me as a run-of-the-mill injustice that happens all the time.

The big question for Manchester police is, why has two hours of CCTV gone missing at the time when a woman claims to be raped while in police custody?

3 years into his sentence DNA evidenced proved it wasn’t him. That would have been given to the defence team, Police, Parole Board and CPS for review. Nobody did anything.

Allot of people have questions to answer and there is now a call for a public enquiry which could mean the end of some people’s careers, liberty, pensions and financial stability.

It wouldn't necessarily have proved that it wasn't him but would surely have raised sufficient doubt.

Heads should roll over this, but hopefully not Starmer's. That would be a bummer and a gift to the Tories pre-election.

[Archery1969]

I don't see anything "big" about this. It strikes me as a run-of-the-mill injustice that happens all the time.

The big question for Manchester police is, why has two hours of CCTV gone missing at the time when a woman claims to be raped while in police custody?

3 years into his sentence DNA evidenced proved it wasn’t him. That would have been given to the defence team, Police, Parole Board and CPS for review. Nobody did anything.

Allot of people have questions to answer and there is now a call for a public enquiry which could mean the end of some people’s careers, liberty, pensions and financial stability.

It wouldn't necessarily have proved that it wasn't him but would surely have raised sufficient doubt.

Heads should roll over this, but hopefully not Starmer's. That would be a bummer and a gift to the Tories pre-election.

Probably why he himself has not said anything. Normally he would be attacking the current government but is probably worried that people may say it’s the CPS job to review past cases. If it comes to light it was reviewed while he was in charge of the CPS then that would indeed by a big headache for him on the verge of grasping victory.

He probably been advised to say nothing at all and hope the enquiry comes well after the general election.

But I suspect if the Tory press get hold of something involving him in this case however small then they will be all over it in the coming weeks/months etc.

[Derek27]

3 years into his sentence DNA evidenced proved it wasn’t him. That would have been given to the defence team, Police, Parole Board and CPS for review. Nobody did anything.

Allot of people have questions to answer and there is now a call for a public enquiry which could mean the end of some people’s careers, liberty, pensions and financial stability.

It wouldn't necessarily have proved that it wasn't him but would surely have raised sufficient doubt.

Heads should roll over this, but hopefully not Starmer's. That would be a bummer and a gift to the Tories pre-election.

Probably why he himself has not said anything. Normally he would be attacking the current government but is probably worried that people may say it’s the CPS job to review past cases. If it comes to light it was reviewed while he was in charge of the CPS then that would indeed by a big headache for him on the verge of grasping victory.

He probably been advised to say nothing at all and hope the enquiry comes well after the general election.

But I suspect if the Tory press get hold of something involving him in this case however small then they will be all over it in the coming weeks/months etc.

He was Director of Public Prosecutions in 2010. I don't know how it works or whether he has personal input on all the big cases but I would have thought the Tories would be all over it now if that was the case.

[Archery1969]

It wouldn't necessarily have proved that it wasn't him but would surely have raised sufficient doubt.

Heads should roll over this, but hopefully not Starmer's. That would be a bummer and a gift to the Tories pre-election.

Probably why he himself has not said anything. Normally he would be attacking the current government but is probably worried that people may say it’s the CPS job to review past cases. If it comes to light it was reviewed while he was in charge of the CPS then that would indeed by a big headache for him on the verge of grasping victory.

He probably been advised to say nothing at all and hope the enquiry comes well after the general election.

But I suspect if the Tory press get hold of something involving him in this case however small then they will be all over it in the coming weeks/months etc.

He was Director of Public Prosecutions in 2010. I don't know how it works or whether he has personal input on all the big cases but I would have thought the Tories would be all over it now if that was the case.

The Tory’s are probably equally to blame, hence keep their mouths shut too.

But Boris won’t care about either and with his journalist connections is probably looking into all of them in the hope of finding something to print.

[Archery1969]

Sir Keir Starmer was director of public prosecutions between 2008 and 2013.

During that time, 2009, the CPS and CCRC were made aware of and understood the importance of the 2007 DNA find in the case of Mr Malkinson rape conviction.

Due to further testing costs and the conviction unlikely being quashed the case was never sent for further review or to appeal.

Therefore, Malkinson has a very strong case that he was indeed screwed over but it also raises the question of what Sir Keir Starmer knew and when.

I imagine this case is going to run and run all the way to the general election.

[firlandsfarm]

I know I have form in thread friction, but can I say I always look at your posts. You both have insight and intelligence beyond my own. I would much prefer you to dedicate your energy to exploration/debate of ideas rather than knocking chunks off each other. Just my opinion.

Thank you Greenmark. I am starting to realise the way for some on this forum to win an argument is to make a false accusation of someone probably brought about by misreading what was posted and then throw a bucket load of insults on them ... and then they ask if I am an MP!!!

[Derek27]

In the UK, the punishment for murder is a life prison sentence ... for most of us. For Saudi princes it's the revocation of the red carpet.

[Archery1969]

In the UK, the punishment for murder is a life prison sentence ... for most of us. For Saudi princes it's the revocation of the red carpet.

All to do with money.

Even Labour have not condemned the visit like the LibDems have. Reason, the UK is somewhat fucked and the Prince invests allot of money through arms sales and power investment. If he wanted too he could pay off the UK national debt and give everyone a 100% pay rise without even checking his back account.

Morales tend to go out of the window when your talking about £ Billions of potential investment.

[firlandsfarm]

Morales tend to go out of the window when your talking about £ Billions of potential investment.

Unfortunately very true

[Derek27]

If 2000 artefacts worth millions can go missing from a national museum right under the nose of George Osbourne, how much went missing from the treasury when he was chancellor?

[Emmson]

Daily Mail is now trying to portray Germany as Sick Man of Europe. PREPOSTEROUS! trade surpluses galore they can afford an economy in the doldrums for a period , No!!! Britain is the Sick Of Man of Europe.