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Emmson
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Hardline Brexiteer fleeing Blighty for life in the EU :D
Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:05 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:43 pm
Our once green and pleasant land for which my Grandparents and others fought and died for, now bears little if any resemblance to the polite, Christian, English society in which I grew up during the 70s.

CS
Do you mean the polite, Christian, English society where racist abuse hurled around on the street was the norm?

Best of luck in Spain anyway.
From my travelling experience, England doesn’t have a monopoly on racism.

I am white, English and have encountered a form of racism in England, Wales, Scotland, Eire, France, Spain, Germany, Hungry, Australia, USA and Austria.

I didn’t encounter it in Scandinavian countries or Turkey.

Yesterday I was in a shop in Canada, asked for some European beer and the owner asked when I was leaving the country. Now you could argue that wasn’t a form of racism but some might argue it was etc.

Peace to all. 🙏
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:38 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:05 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:43 pm
Our once green and pleasant land for which my Grandparents and others fought and died for, now bears little if any resemblance to the polite, Christian, English society in which I grew up during the 70s.

CS
Do you mean the polite, Christian, English society where racist abuse hurled around on the street was the norm?

Best of luck in Spain anyway.
From my travelling experience, England doesn’t have a monopoly on racism.

I am white, English and have encountered a form of racism in England, Wales, Scotland, Eire, France, Spain, Germany, Hungry, Australia, USA and Austria.

I didn’t encounter it in Scandinavian countries or Turkey.

Yesterday I was in a shop in Canada, asked for some European beer and the owner asked when I was leaving the country. Now you could argue that wasn’t a form of racism but some might argue it was etc.

Peace to all. 🙏
Yes, but was he Christian? Did he have a cross around his neck? ;)

Whether CS likes it or not, this is still largely a Christian country, that much hasn't changed. :)
greenmark
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:38 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:05 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:43 pm
Our once green and pleasant land for which my Grandparents and others fought and died for, now bears little if any resemblance to the polite, Christian, English society in which I grew up during the 70s.

CS
Do you mean the polite, Christian, English society where racist abuse hurled around on the street was the norm?

Best of luck in Spain anyway.
From my travelling experience, England doesn’t have a monopoly on racism.

I am white, English and have encountered a form of racism in England, Wales, Scotland, Eire, France, Spain, Germany, Hungry, Australia, USA and Austria.

I didn’t encounter it in Scandinavian countries or Turkey.

Yesterday I was in a shop in Canada, asked for some European beer and the owner asked when I was leaving the country. Now you could argue that wasn’t a form of racism but some might argue it was etc.

Peace to all. 🙏
Racism is a downward spiral. I worked with Swedish, French, Spanish, Pakistani, Indian, Estonian, Finnish, Ghanaian , Cameroonian.
And you know what I'd work with them again like a shot because they were good.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:49 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:38 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:05 pm


Do you mean the polite, Christian, English society where racist abuse hurled around on the street was the norm?

Best of luck in Spain anyway.
From my travelling experience, England doesn’t have a monopoly on racism.

I am white, English and have encountered a form of racism in England, Wales, Scotland, Eire, France, Spain, Germany, Hungry, Australia, USA and Austria.

I didn’t encounter it in Scandinavian countries or Turkey.

Yesterday I was in a shop in Canada, asked for some European beer and the owner asked when I was leaving the country. Now you could argue that wasn’t a form of racism but some might argue it was etc.

Peace to all. 🙏
Racism is a downward spiral. I worked with Swedish, French, Spanish, Pakistani, Indian, Estonian, Finnish, Ghanaian , Cameroonian.
And you know what I'd work with them again like a shot because they were good.
My point was that racism exists across the globe. Usually in the 50+ year olds.
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ForFolksSake
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Crazyskier wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:43 pm

I'm off to Spain to retire and play golf and wash my hands of it all. God help old Blighty.

CS
Best of luck with that

https://news.sky.com/story/as-protester ... a-13176003
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Crazyskier
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:18 am
Crazyskier wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:43 pm

I'm off to Spain to retire and play golf and wash my hands of it all. God help old Blighty.

CS
Best of luck with that

https://news.sky.com/story/as-protester ... a-13176003
Thanks, and yes that's very disturbing.

Thankfully we'll be on one of the many ex-pat gated and patrolled golf complexes around Murcia. With personnel that appreciate the British investment and tips that make up their livelihood.

CS
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firlandsfarm
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:36 pm
My point was that racism exists across the globe. Usually in the 50+ year olds.
That's ageism! :D
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firlandsfarm
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Crazyskier wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:32 am
Thankfully we'll be on one of the many ex-pat gated and patrolled golf complexes around Murcia. With personnel that appreciate the British investment and tips that make up their livelihood.

CS
So you're not really going to live in Spain, you will be living in a little bit of the UK that's in Spain!
greenmark
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Must confess as a left of centre that the lack of narrative on investment is disappointing.

No fault evictions - Ok good.

Building safety rules for social tenants - Ok good.

Draft Leasehold and Commonhold Reform Bill will curb ground rent for existing leaseholders, and ban forfeiture - where leaseholders are threatened with losing their home - over small unpaid debts. - Ok good.

A Passenger Railway Services Bill will allow the government to renationalise nearly all passenger rail services, when existing contracts expire.
Great but the govt's reputation running these services is even worse than the private sector. The govt that we elected needs to change govt so that essential services are effective. This is going to cost money.

Employment: how long have politicians been banging on about zero-hours contracts and done FA about it.
I know some like the gig economy, but some don't. It offers no stability to build a life.

That's a very disappointing King's speech for me.
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firlandsfarm
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:09 pm
No fault evictions - Ok good.
I agree with no fault evictions but landlord protection is never mentioned, 'at fault' evictions need to be speeded up. A tenant has to miss two (monthly) rental payments before a landlord can take action. The action is to apply to the courts and wait for the courts to hear the claim (easily another 2 rent free months) and then if the court grants a termination (and it is an 'if' depending on if the tenant counter claims in some way) it will probably allow another 2 months for the tenant to move elsewhere. That's 6 months rent free ... is the landlord mortgage free during that time ... No.

One case we had our agent rang the tenant chasing for 2 months outstanding rent and got a remonstration from the tenant about how she should not be chased for rent arrears while she is on holiday in Greece! She went the full 6 months rent free before vacating the property.

As usual there are two sides to every point.
Archery1969
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:53 am
greenmark wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:09 pm
No fault evictions - Ok good.
I agree with no fault evictions but landlord protection is never mentioned, 'at fault' evictions need to be speeded up. A tenant has to miss two (monthly) rental payments before a landlord can take action. The action is to apply to the courts and wait for the courts to hear the claim (easily another 2 rent free months) and then if the court grants a termination (and it is an 'if' depending on if the tenant counter claims in some way) it will probably allow another 2 months for the tenant to move elsewhere. That's 6 months rent free ... is the landlord mortgage free during that time ... No.

One case we had our agent rang the tenant chasing for 2 months outstanding rent and got a remonstration from the tenant about how she should not be chased for rent arrears while she is on holiday in Greece! She went the full 6 months rent free before vacating the property.

As usual there are two sides to every point.
There is a way of doing it much faster via small claims court. When I was in the UK I used such method against a tenant and her credit file ended up being trashed. The result meaning no chance of renting anywhere without 12 months deposit or home owner guarantee etc.
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firlandsfarm
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:00 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:53 am
greenmark wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:09 pm
No fault evictions - Ok good.
I agree with no fault evictions but landlord protection is never mentioned, 'at fault' evictions need to be speeded up. A tenant has to miss two (monthly) rental payments before a landlord can take action. The action is to apply to the courts and wait for the courts to hear the claim (easily another 2 rent free months) and then if the court grants a termination (and it is an 'if' depending on if the tenant counter claims in some way) it will probably allow another 2 months for the tenant to move elsewhere. That's 6 months rent free ... is the landlord mortgage free during that time ... No.

One case we had our agent rang the tenant chasing for 2 months outstanding rent and got a remonstration from the tenant about how she should not be chased for rent arrears while she is on holiday in Greece! She went the full 6 months rent free before vacating the property.

As usual there are two sides to every point.
There is a way of doing it much faster via small claims court. When I was in the UK I used such method against a tenant and her credit file ended up being trashed. The result meaning no chance of renting anywhere without 12 months deposit or home owner guarantee etc.
I was advised that if the claim in the small claims court is awarded you still have to employ bailiffs to get the money owed and the court does not issue an eviction notice so the next month they are back in debt!
greenmark
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:53 am
greenmark wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:09 pm
No fault evictions - Ok good.
I agree with no fault evictions but landlord protection is never mentioned, 'at fault' evictions need to be speeded up. A tenant has to miss two (monthly) rental payments before a landlord can take action. The action is to apply to the courts and wait for the courts to hear the claim (easily another 2 rent free months) and then if the court grants a termination (and it is an 'if' depending on if the tenant counter claims in some way) it will probably allow another 2 months for the tenant to move elsewhere. That's 6 months rent free ... is the landlord mortgage free during that time ... No.

One case we had our agent rang the tenant chasing for 2 months outstanding rent and got a remonstration from the tenant about how she should not be chased for rent arrears while she is on holiday in Greece! She went the full 6 months rent free before vacating the property.

As usual there are two sides to every point.
Lol
"she should not be chased for rent arrears while she is on holiday in Greece".
I guess there could be a scenario where that might make you think she was right, but I can't think of one. Well. Perhaps I can - booked holiday long ago, circumstances changed. Holiday money already gone may as well go away and worry about the crap at home when you get back.
Is that eviction process why rents are so high? Or are high rents simply due to supply/demand? I know squat about this arena. Very long time since I or anyone I know rented a property.
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Euler
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On the subject of rentals, and I have no skin in the game. It seems to me that you need to encourage people to rent houses or invest in buy to let.

The changes in tax charges and expenses have trimmed available rentals, as predicted. So I don't know you do that and encourage more property onto the market. All I know is that the state is the solution.
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