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ForFolksSake
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Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:26 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:01 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:08 pm


Out of 88,500 Armed Forces personnel, 480 are Muslim. So, not many.

Obviously, with any large entity, there will always be racists of some sort.

This case (not Muslim) was rather shocking but no surprise really from my past experience.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c84jzex9vk8o

So, I don't think you need to worry about Muslims firing rubber bullets at anyone. I very much doubt any Muslims would be deployed onto UK streets.
I very much doubt any Muslims would be deployed onto UK streets.
But if they are part of the British army why wouldn't they be ?
1. I dont know how many of those Muslims are part of any infantry regiments.
2. Those in charge might think deploying any of them might cause added confrontations.

However, soldiers are not police officers. They follow orders more so than a police officer would. If they dont then they can get into serious trouble and dont have the luxuary of being part of any union to argue their case.

I dont know what orders the soldiers would be given. They dont have the power of arrest, not even a citizens arrest type argument.

They will probably be given very long truncheons, told to move forward and move anything in their way. They wont care if your White, Black, Asian, Indian, Pakistani, Young, Old, Have 1 Arm or 1 Leg. You will be moved out of the way however they decide.
told to move forward and move anything in their way
They might be told to do those things you mention but what will there consciences tell/allow them to do ?

God help us all if Israel v Iran escalates and the British Army get sucked in.
Are the British muslim soldiers going to be told to move forward and kick those Israeli and Irani arses ?
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:52 pm

God help us all if Israel v Iran escalates and the British Army get sucked in.
Are the British muslim soldiers going to be told to move forward and kick those Israeli and Irani arses ?
Jeez, never thought about that...

God help us all if UK v "insert some some christian country" escalates and the British Army get sucked in. Are the British christian soldiers going to be told to move forward and kick those christian arses..

Even a quick look at your primary school history book will tell you... christians kill christians, christians kill muslims, muslim kill muslim muslim kill christians..
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:52 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:26 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:01 pm




But if they are part of the British army why wouldn't they be ?
1. I dont know how many of those Muslims are part of any infantry regiments.
2. Those in charge might think deploying any of them might cause added confrontations.

However, soldiers are not police officers. They follow orders more so than a police officer would. If they dont then they can get into serious trouble and dont have the luxuary of being part of any union to argue their case.

I dont know what orders the soldiers would be given. They dont have the power of arrest, not even a citizens arrest type argument.

They will probably be given very long truncheons, told to move forward and move anything in their way. They wont care if your White, Black, Asian, Indian, Pakistani, Young, Old, Have 1 Arm or 1 Leg. You will be moved out of the way however they decide.
told to move forward and move anything in their way
They might be told to do those things you mention but what will there consciences tell/allow them to do ?

God help us all if Israel v Iran escalates and the British Army get sucked in.
Are the British muslim soldiers going to be told to move forward and kick those Israeli and Irani arses ?
As I mentioned, there are only 480 Muslim soldiers, which is 0.54% of the total. There not going to make that much difference anyway, even if they were asked to fight/kill whoever.

Also, I am not aware of any soldier since 1960 who refused an order to engage with the perceived enemy. If your a soldier then you follow orders or risk being at a court martial with no jury.
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sionascaig wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:05 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:52 pm

God help us all if Israel v Iran escalates and the British Army get sucked in.
Are the British muslim soldiers going to be told to move forward and kick those Israeli and Irani arses ?
Jeez, never thought about that...

God help us all if UK v "insert some some christian country" escalates and the British Army get sucked in. Are the British christian soldiers going to be told to move forward and kick those christian arses..

Even a quick look at your primary school history book will tell you... christians kill christians, christians kill muslims, muslim kill muslim muslim kill christians..
I tell you what , if it does happen ( God forbid )
you stand in front of the muslim soldier and I'll stand behind
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:27 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:08 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:52 am




And there's the problem

I wonder if there are many Muslim's in the British Army ?

Who are they going to be firing the rubber bullets at ?

What a F*Kn mess
What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 75239.html
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:42 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:27 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:08 pm

What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 75239.html
You've excelled yourself. That exclamation is equivalent to any number of Christian exclamations. Oh My God, Jesus Christ, My goodness, Heavens above, Good grief. etc etc. All are essentially blasphemy.
I think swearing and this hidden blaspheming needs calling out. What do you think?
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:02 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:42 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:27 pm


What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 75239.html
You've excelled yourself. That exclamation is equivalent to any number of Christian exclamations. Oh My God, Jesus Christ, My goodness, Heavens above, Good grief. etc etc. All are essentially blasphemy.
I think swearing and this hidden blaspheming needs calling out. What do you think?
What do you think?
What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
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ForFolksSake
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:02 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:42 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:27 pm


What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 75239.html
You've excelled yourself. That exclamation is equivalent to any number of Christian exclamations. Oh My God, Jesus Christ, My goodness, Heavens above, Good grief. etc etc. All are essentially blasphemy.
I think swearing and this hidden blaspheming needs calling out. What do you think?
What do you think?
What a F*Kn completely and utterly farcical situation our politicians have got this country in
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Derek27
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Daily Express: Don't blame UK's finances for not fixing pension injustice!

So, one month after Labour take power they acknowledge the state of the UK's finances, as if Labour recked it, but no blame for the state of our finances or pension injustice to the party that's been in government for 14 years!
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Derek27
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Lettuce Liz walked off stage in an interview after a banner opened above her head. It said: I CRASHED THE ECONOMY :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Edit: It had the image of a lettuce on it, the stunt was carried out by Led By Donkeys. Lettuce Liz said, "That's not funny" just before she walked off. :lol: :lol: :lol:
greenmark
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:09 pm
Lettuce Liz walked off stage in an interview after a banner opened above her head. It said: I CRASHED THE ECONOMY :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Edit: It had the image of a lettuce on it, the stunt was carried out by Led By Donkeys. Lettuce Liz said, "That's not funny" just before she walked off. :lol: :lol: :lol:
"That's not funny" :lol:
Not only useless, but thin-skinned, now has a reputation for flouncing off if you can needle her without arguing her case and (most notably) still in denial.
Bit like a fooballer or cricketer being sledged and losing it.
Ah well!
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Derek27
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Truss was talking about why she supports Trump when the banner unfolded. What an absolute lunatic. :lol:
greenmark
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:19 pm
Truss was talking about why she supports Trump when the banner unfolded. What an absolute lunatic. :lol:
Honestly, she is one the politicians in my life that is the most detached from reality. Wow did we swerve catastrophy by everyone deciding that she should depoart.
It still hurt a huge number and iif pension funds had collapsed would have hurt a whole lot more. She needs therapy. Seriously. She is nuts.
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Derek27
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It's not funny - 99.9% of cats disagree. :mrgreen:
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:56 pm
Daily Express: Don't blame UK's finances for not fixing pension injustice!

So, one month after Labour take power they acknowledge the state of the UK's finances, as if Labour recked it, but no blame for the state of our finances or pension injustice to the party that's been in government for 14 years!
They keep quiet about how bad the economy and finances were when Cons/Lib took over in 2010.
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