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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:24 am
greenmark wrote:
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:04 pm


The day after the budget and the run-up to Xmas - didn't see that one coming 🧐

New Tube train vandalised with graffiti – before it’s even delivered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFmLVtSqQo0
“No trade union can accept any pay proposal where management decide which of our members gets a pay rise and those who do not.”

Thats quite a statement. And for the record I don't agree with it. Unions and management negotiate. Neither unions nor management unilaterally decide who gets a rise. But there's no doubt the public are losing patience with both parties screwing up their lives.
The Unions don't have to negotiate now though as they know they have Labour by the balls and no doubt they will step in and give them 8% etc.

These public sector pay deals are probably going to increase well above inflation for the next 4 years. Just have to hope that the governments wish to increase the economy delivers otherwise the next government will be sadled with unsustainable public sector costs. And the only way out of that is mass redundancies.

You've obviously not been employed in the public sector, or probably employed, if you think unions have any real power these days.
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CloseBets wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:13 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:24 am
greenmark wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:01 am

“No trade union can accept any pay proposal where management decide which of our members gets a pay rise and those who do not.”

Thats quite a statement. And for the record I don't agree with it. Unions and management negotiate. Neither unions nor management unilaterally decide who gets a rise. But there's no doubt the public are losing patience with both parties screwing up their lives.
The Unions don't have to negotiate now though as they know they have Labour by the balls and no doubt they will step in and give them 8% etc.

These public sector pay deals are probably going to increase well above inflation for the next 4 years. Just have to hope that the governments wish to increase the economy delivers otherwise the next government will be sadled with unsustainable public sector costs. And the only way out of that is mass redundancies.

You've obviously not been employed in the public sector, or probably employed, if you think unions have any real power these days.
I beg your pardon ?

Served 14 years in the armed forces for her majesty’s government and then in the private security sector. Now I am retired.
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Been away for a whole week. Switched everything off except my fridge ... and I still didn't hit my target for free electricity!!!
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Patrick Robinson, a judge who sits on the International Court of Justice - concluded the UK owed more than £18 trillion in reparations for its role in slavery in 14 Caribbean countries.

No wonder the UK doesn’t want to talk about it. That would bankrupt everybody.

Might be a good time to leave the commonwealth. 🤔
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:08 pm
Patrick Robinson, a judge who sits on the International Court of Justice - concluded the UK owed more than £18 trillion in reparations for its role in slavery in 14 Caribbean countries.

No wonder the UK doesn’t want to talk about it. That would bankrupt everybody.

Might be a good time to leave the commonwealth. 🤔
Just cover it with reparations from Rome.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:08 pm
Patrick Robinson, a judge who sits on the International Court of Justice - concluded the UK owed more than £18 trillion in reparations for its role in slavery in 14 Caribbean countries.

No wonder the UK doesn’t want to talk about it. That would bankrupt everybody.

Might be a good time to leave the commonwealth. 🤔
If you trawl back through history in that way it becomes a replay of the feuds that occured.
How about we sue Germany for WW2?
How about we sue Italy for the Roman invasion of Britain?
How about we sue the scandanavians for the Vikings invading Britain?
How about we sue the French for the Normans invading Britain?
It's total nonsense.
The reality basically is we were better at being brutal shitbags than most. But the rest of the world were at it too and still are.
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Interesting article…..

UK economy could 'crumble' if chancellor changes rules
Rachel Reeves's plan to change the government's fiscal rules on borrowing could have "frightening long-term consequences", leading financial advisers at Blick Rothenberg have said.

Tweaking how the UK's debt is defined could give the chancellor another £50bn to play with at next week's budget - see our previous posts for details.

But...

"Increased borrowing and increased borrowing costs would have to be paid back by all taxpayers over time and with interest," said Nick Winters, a partner at Blick Rothenberg.
"At some point, she would need to raise taxes even further or risk widening the fiscal £22bn 'black hole', which given the tax rises already proposed in the budget, is a scary possibility."
Mr Winters said the change could present her with a "big, temporary win" - but "there are only so many tweaks our economy can take before it crumbles".
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:58 pm
Interesting article…..

UK economy could 'crumble' if chancellor changes rules
Rachel Reeves's plan to change the government's fiscal rules on borrowing could have "frightening long-term consequences", leading financial advisers at Blick Rothenberg have said.

Tweaking how the UK's debt is defined could give the chancellor another £50bn to play with at next week's budget - see our previous posts for details.

But...

"Increased borrowing and increased borrowing costs would have to be paid back by all taxpayers over time and with interest," said Nick Winters, a partner at Blick Rothenberg.
"At some point, she would need to raise taxes even further or risk widening the fiscal £22bn 'black hole', which given the tax rises already proposed in the budget, is a scary possibility."
Mr Winters said the change could present her with a "big, temporary win" - but "there are only so many tweaks our economy can take before it crumbles".
From what I've read that view is a matter of opinion. Some agree, some don't. Compared to Truss's lunacy it's just normal debate. In Truss's case EVERYBODY with money to lose was against her.
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:08 am
Been away for a whole week. Switched everything off except my fridge ... and I still didn't hit my target for free electricity!!!
I'm gonna switch my power off for three hours a day next week and run on battery power. I'll get that flipping free electricity even if it kills me!
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:54 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:08 am
Been away for a whole week. Switched everything off except my fridge ... and I still didn't hit my target for free electricity!!!
I'm gonna switch my power off for three hours a day next week and run on battery power. I'll get that flipping free electricity even if it kills me!
Are you going nuts?
My gas is 29p a day unless I run it.
My electric is £1.50.
Buy a windmill or go solar. Should be back in profit in 20 years.
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:54 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:08 am
Been away for a whole week. Switched everything off except my fridge ... and I still didn't hit my target for free electricity!!!
I'm gonna switch my power off for three hours a day next week and run on battery power. I'll get that flipping free electricity even if it kills me!
Free electricity, what the hell are you upto Derek ?
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:12 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:54 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:08 am
Been away for a whole week. Switched everything off except my fridge ... and I still didn't hit my target for free electricity!!!
I'm gonna switch my power off for three hours a day next week and run on battery power. I'll get that flipping free electricity even if it kills me!
Free electricity, what the hell are you upto Derek ?
Utility company's give you free electricity if you move your usage from peak hours and normally have offers on during the year. I'm with EDF and if you save x % of your usage between 4pm and 7pm you get between 4 and 16 free hours of electricity on a Sunday

It's easy to off-set just have your tea after 7, don't shower or use washer machine between them hours, weather has been mild so not had heating on yet. Do all the washing/meal prep etc on a Sunday when it's all free.
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Its been leaked to the BBC.

Reeves is going to increase Employers national insurance contributions and lower the threshold to raise £20 billion.

Something tells me that small and medium sized companies are going to begin laying people off before the new employee labour laws come in. Meaning the welfare bill will be going up with more claiming Universal Credit and Housing support.

o dear, what a shit show coming down the line.......
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:06 pm
Its been leaked to the BBC.

Reeves is going to increase Employers national insurance contributions and lower the threshold to raise £20 billion.

Something tells me that small and medium sized companies are going to begin laying people off before the new employee labour laws come in. Meaning the welfare bill will be going up with more claiming Universal Credit and Housing support.

o dear, what a shit show coming down the line.......
Or those companies will look to pass these costs on in terms of higher prices resulting in higher inflation 📈💩🌹
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As far as I'm concerned employer contributions are as much of a tax on my employment as employee contributions. I've never considered them otherwise.

It's just a stealth income tax increase that Labour hope the proletariat won't understand. And to be fair the majority probably won't.
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