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greenmark
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:11 am
greenmark wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:33 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:18 pm


Or .... Just ask Greenmark..... two peas in the same pod 🟢 🟢
I have no idea what point you are trying to make there.
Or .... Just ask Starmer..... two peas in the same pod 🟢 🟢
Nope. Still baffled.
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ForFolksSake
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:00 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:11 am
greenmark wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:33 am

I have no idea what point you are trying to make there.
Or .... Just ask Starmer..... two peas in the same pod 🟢 🟢
Nope. Still baffled.
I'm sure you'll get it sooner or later 😎
greenmark
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:51 am
greenmark wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:00 am
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:11 am


Or .... Just ask Starmer..... two peas in the same pod 🟢 🟢
Nope. Still baffled.
I'm sure you'll get it sooner or later 😎
Ah. Got it. You're talking bollocks.
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ForFolksSake
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:18 pm
greenmark wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:40 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:55 pm


In France it's the French taxpayer
In Germany it's the German taxpayer
In America ..... Trump has built a great big wall along the Mexican border to stop the World and his wife getting in illegally....

If the World and his wife want to come to this country illegally in a small boat there's nowt anyone can do to stop it.
Just ask Starmer
C'est la vie 💁‍♂️
And why stop them?
You are the one that's talking bollocks
Archery1969
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I wonder how long Reeves will remain as chancellor, 6 months, 12 months, 4 years ?

https://news.sky.com/story/hospitality- ... s-13251003
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ForFolksSake
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:48 am
I wonder how long Reeves will remain as chancellor, 6 months, 12 months, 4 years ?

https://news.sky.com/story/hospitality- ... s-13251003
Chancellor’s NI raid claims first victim: ‘We made it through Covid but cannot survive this Government’

A British manufacturing company has said it will close down its four factories because of Rachel Reeves’s Budget.

Kevin Hancock, managing director of Connectix Cabling Systems, said the Chancellor’s national insurance tax raid and lifting of the national minimum wage had made manufacturing in Britain “not viable”.
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Article 10 of Human Rights Act (1998) a bill passed by Tony Blairs Labour governmentand its a very good bill says

Right to freedom of expression and information
Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights provides the right to freedom of expression and information12. It includes the freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority. The right extends to information or ideas that may offend, shock, or disturb the State or any sector of the population. It protects the expression of opinions through various means, including public protest, demonstrations, and published articles.


This needs to be observed by left and right.
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ForFolksSake
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Emmson wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:53 pm
Article 10 of Human Rights Act (1998) a bill passed by Tony Blairs Labour governmentand its a very good bill says

Right to freedom of expression and information
Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights provides the right to freedom of expression and information12. It includes the freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority. The right extends to information or ideas that may offend, shock, or disturb the State or any sector of the population. It protects the expression of opinions through various means, including public protest, demonstrations, and published articles.


This needs to be observed by left and right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LixJECmbfNY 👈 👉

R.I.P Johnny
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ForFolksSake
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Nine boats carrying 572 people were intercepted crossing the Channel on Saturday, according to the Home Office.

This bring the total number of migrants to arrive so far this year to 32,691 which is up 22% on the same time last year (26,699)

And there's nowt we can do about it

Shocking 😮
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jamesedwards
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:18 pm
Nine boats carrying 572 people were intercepted crossing the Channel on Saturday, according to the Home Office.

This bring the total number of migrants to arrive so far this year to 32,691 which is up 22% on the same time last year (26,699)

And there's nowt we can do about it

Shocking 😮
But why do so many risk the crossing? What do they get in the UK that they don't in France?

Is our benefits system really that much softer? Or is it our poor control of illegal workers? Or people speak English better than French?
sionascaig
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jamesedwards wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:43 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:18 pm
Nine boats carrying 572 people were intercepted crossing the Channel on Saturday, according to the Home Office.

This bring the total number of migrants to arrive so far this year to 32,691 which is up 22% on the same time last year (26,699)

And there's nowt we can do about it

Shocking 😮
But why do so many risk the crossing? What do they get in the UK that they don't in France?

Is our benefits system really that much softer? Or is it our poor control of illegal workers? Or people speak English better than French?
No idea but:

UK
- Whether you can be entitled to benefits depends on your immigration status and whether you meet the presence and residence rules for the benefit you want
- You'll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.

France
- You are entitled to the same social security benefits as French nationals. You have the right to work in France. You have the right to family reunification. You have the possibility of obtaining French nationality through naturalization.

Plus better weather & wine... No brainer to me...
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ForFolksSake
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jamesedwards wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:43 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:18 pm
Nine boats carrying 572 people were intercepted crossing the Channel on Saturday, according to the Home Office.

This bring the total number of migrants to arrive so far this year to 32,691 which is up 22% on the same time last year (26,699)

And there's nowt we can do about it

Shocking 😮
But why do so many risk the crossing? What do they get in the UK that they don't in France?

Is our benefits system really that much softer? Or is it our poor control of illegal workers? Or people speak English better than French?
All what you said + Hotels, Benefits, Council Houses etc
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Derek27
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:54 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:43 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:18 pm
Nine boats carrying 572 people were intercepted crossing the Channel on Saturday, according to the Home Office.

This bring the total number of migrants to arrive so far this year to 32,691 which is up 22% on the same time last year (26,699)

And there's nowt we can do about it

Shocking 😮
But why do so many risk the crossing? What do they get in the UK that they don't in France?

Is our benefits system really that much softer? Or is it our poor control of illegal workers? Or people speak English better than French?
All what you said + Hotels, Benefits, Council Houses etc
I reckon the main attraction the UK has on poorer places are that people are wrongly led to believe by the gangs that we're all rich here. Just look at the Vitamise migrants that sadly suffocated to death in a lorry. Many of them borrowed and paid £100K for the journey. How many months/years did they think they'd have to work for on minimum wage to earn that back?

They certainly didn't pay £100K to live off benefits in a council house!
Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 1:14 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:54 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:43 pm


But why do so many risk the crossing? What do they get in the UK that they don't in France?

Is our benefits system really that much softer? Or is it our poor control of illegal workers? Or people speak English better than French?
All what you said + Hotels, Benefits, Council Houses etc
I reckon the main attraction the UK has on poorer places are that people are wrongly led to believe by the gangs that we're all rich here. Just look at the Vitamise migrants that sadly suffocated to death in a lorry. Many of them borrowed and paid £100K for the journey. How many months/years did they think they'd have to work for on minimum wage to earn that back?

They certainly didn't pay £100K to live off benefits in a council house!
First thing that springs to mind is that £100k is allot of money in Vietnam. Who are they borrowing it off, family and friends ? If yes then I would borrow it of them and then piss off and disappear in Vietnam or Cambodia. Live like a king.

To me, none of it makes sense, there must be another reason they risking their lives. I have often wondered are they being drug mules maybe. Either swallowing it or dumping it in sealed waterproof bags just before they hit the cost or are intercepted. Gangs UK side then recover the parcels later.

Again, no idea what the motivation is, doesn’t make sense.

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