Excuses, Excuses, Excuses

[ForFolksSake]

Greta is almost 22, 33% of the worlds population is under 20. How long before the youngsters start blaming her and her age group for the Climate Crises.

Where did you fly back from recently

Why do you want to clip my ticket?

Further than Azerbaijan was it ?
It wasn't Florida or Valencia was it ?

[firlandsfarm]

"... the UK sent an incredible 470 delegates to the UN climate change summit in Azerbaijan...

... With Baku almost 2,500 miles from London, the British delegation is estimated to have collectively racked up 2.3 million air miles for return trips. Each return flight pumps out at least 0.7 tons of CO2 per passenger, making the delegation’s flights’ total carbon footprint at least 338 tons of CO2."

Good to see they cut the carbon footprint to a minimum then!

Good to see you and Greta on the same side )

Don't forget the cost paid for by the taxpayers, especially the pensioners who cannot strike for more money and have lost their winter fuel payment

[greenmark]

"... the UK sent an incredible 470 delegates to the UN climate change summit in Azerbaijan...

... With Baku almost 2,500 miles from London, the British delegation is estimated to have collectively racked up 2.3 million air miles for return trips. Each return flight pumps out at least 0.7 tons of CO2 per passenger, making the delegation’s flights’ total carbon footprint at least 338 tons of CO2."

Good to see they cut the carbon footprint to a minimum then!

Good to see you and Greta on the same side )

Don't forget the cost paid for by the taxpayers, especially the pensioners who cannot strike for more money and have lost their winter fuel payment

I still think there should be a system for pensioners that don't need the winter fuel allowance to put it back into the system, tax free to be redistributed to those that need it.
It's a worthy system, but a bit nuts IMO. Does a millionaire need a few hundred?

[conduirez]

Where did you fly back from recently

Why do you want to clip my ticket?

Further than Azerbaijan was it ?
It wasn't Florida or Valencia was it ?

So what's your point I don't get it, what does it matter how far I flew for my leisure with my money.

I am no eco warrior and global warming won't be beaten by a few prats like JSO idiots or Greta, or a bunch of woke nutters, it will be beaten by technology. It's happening now science and technology have given us or opening up opportunities for, wind turbines, solar panels, renewable fuels, Hydro Electrics, indoor farming without the need for light, the list goes on and on.

The only thing I can think of is, I made a comment about Greta (the eco saint) and you I think are her biggest fan.

Keir Starmer net zero policy and there he is flying 470 delegates to Baku, can you imagine the bar bill, lets face it, it was a beano, we have Zoom now, WhatsApp so many computer aided devices we fly 470 people there. Macron did not go, Biden did not go, in fact United States, China, India, Canada, and Japan never sent any representatives. It is a joke event.

[ForFolksSake]

Why do you want to clip my ticket?

Further than Azerbaijan was it ?
It wasn't Florida or Valencia was it ?

The only thing I can think of is, I made a comment about Greta (the eco saint)

How long before the youngsters start blaming you and your age group for the Climate Crises

[conduirez]

Further than Azerbaijan was it ?
It wasn't Florida or Valencia was it ?

The only thing I can think of is, I made a comment about Greta (the eco saint)

How long before the youngsters start blaming you and your age group for the Climate Crises

I have to say if you are such a eco warrior supporter, what are you doing on a trading site that is so against eco Ideals, that makes no sense to me.

Three horses died at Cheltenham today, trainers drive their horses 100's of miles a week to meetings, Jockeys drive 100's of miles a week to courses, some use helicopters and planes, all polluting the atmosphere all leaving a carbon footprint, the horses that are not part of the food chain (unless they end up in France ) give out major amounts of nasty gasses. There are lots of people who drive to the meetings as well.

Maybe your forte is not horse racing, maybe it's dog racing, the unethical way that dogs are treated at the end of their racing life, they don't all go to good homes, they also contribute to greenhouse gasses, they travel around to tracks, especially for open races, their kennels are not at the tracks. There are lots of people who drive to the meetings as well.

Maybe you like team sports Football, Cricket, Rugby, these involve a lot of travel, I have been watching the Aussie BBL, there are a lot of UK players there. England football team played in Greece the other day, all those supporters who flew there as well. There is a lot of international rugby union going on at the moment teams traveling across the world to play each other.

I am not going to go on and on, but if you are on this site you are either a hypocrite or you like to think of yourself as a pro eco warrior even though you are really not. I think the latter is true because here you still are.

[Archery1969]

The only thing I can think of is, I made a comment about Greta (the eco saint)

How long before the youngsters start blaming you and your age group for the Climate Crises

I have to say if you are such a eco warrior supporter, what are you doing on a trading site that is so against eco Ideals, that makes no sense to me.

Three horses died at Cheltenham today, trainers drive their horses 100's of miles a week to meetings, Jockeys drive 100's of miles a week to courses, some use helicopters and planes, all polluting the atmosphere all leaving a carbon footprint, the horses that are not part of the food chain (unless they end up in France ) give out major amounts of nasty gasses. There are lots of people who drive to the meetings as well.

Maybe your forte is not horse racing, maybe it's dog racing, the unethical way that dogs are treated at the end of their racing life, they don't all go to good homes, they also contribute to greenhouse gasses, they travel around to tracks, especially for open races, their kennels are not at the tracks. There are lots of people who drive to the meetings as well.

Maybe you like team sports Football, Cricket, Rugby, these involve a lot of travel, I have been watching the Aussie BBL, there are a lot of UK players there. England football team played in Greece the other day, all those supporters who flew there as well. There is a lot of international rugby union going on at the moment teams traveling across the world to play each other.

I am not going to go on and on, but if you are on this site you are either a hypocrite or you like to think of yourself as a pro eco warrior even though you are really not. I think the latter is true because here you still are.

[ForFolksSake]

The only thing I can think of is, I made a comment about Greta (the eco saint)

How long before the youngsters start blaming you and your age group for the Climate Crises

I have to say if you are such a eco warrior supporter, what are you doing on a trading site that is so against eco Ideals, that makes no sense to me.

Three horses died at Cheltenham today, trainers drive their horses 100's of miles a week to meetings, Jockeys drive 100's of miles a week to courses, some use helicopters and planes, all polluting the atmosphere all leaving a carbon footprint, the horses that are not part of the food chain (unless they end up in France ) give out major amounts of nasty gasses. There are lots of people who drive to the meetings as well.

Maybe your forte is not horse racing, maybe it's dog racing, the unethical way that dogs are treated at the end of their racing life, they don't all go to good homes, they also contribute to greenhouse gasses, they travel around to tracks, especially for open races, their kennels are not at the tracks. There are lots of people who drive to the meetings as well.

Maybe you like team sports Football, Cricket, Rugby, these involve a lot of travel, I have been watching the Aussie BBL, there are a lot of UK players there. England football team played in Greece the other day, all those supporters who flew there as well. There is a lot of international rugby union going on at the moment teams traveling across the world to play each other.

I am not going to go on and on, but if you are on this site you are either a hypocrite or you like to think of yourself as a pro eco warrior even though you are really not. I think the latter is true because here you still are.

Phew ! for a moment I thought you might be one of those 'Climate deniers'.
The less 'climate deniers' we have on this forum the better
And it's good to know you are just as concerned about climate change as the young

[conduirez]

Phew ! for a moment I thought you might be one of those 'Climate deniers'.
The less 'climate deniers' we have on this forum the better
And it's good to know you are just as concerned about climate change as the young

Good lets say we both agree climate change is happening.

[ForFolksSake]

Phew ! for a moment I thought you might be one of those 'Climate deniers'.
The less 'climate deniers' we have on this forum the better
And it's good to know you are just as concerned about climate change as the young

Good lets say we both agree climate change is happening.

Absolutely. can't agree with you more

[firlandsfarm]

Good to see you and Greta on the same side )

Don't forget the cost paid for by the taxpayers, especially the pensioners who cannot strike for more money and have lost their winter fuel payment

I still think there should be a system for pensioners that don't need the winter fuel allowance to put it back into the system, tax free to be redistributed to those that need it.
It's a worthy system, but a bit nuts IMO. Does a millionaire need a few hundred?

I fully agree GM but we that can afford to do without it are only a few of the claimed 10 million it has been taken away from.

[firlandsfarm]

So what's your point I don't get it, what does it matter how far I flew for my leisure with my money.

I am no eco warrior and global warming won't be beaten by a few prats like JSO idiots or Greta, or a bunch of woke nutters, it will be beaten by technology. It's happening now science and technology have given us or opening up opportunities for, wind turbines, solar panels, renewable fuels, Hydro Electrics, indoor farming without the need for light, the list goes on and on.

The only thing I can think of is, I made a comment about Greta (the eco saint) and you I think are her biggest fan.

Keir Starmer net zero policy and there he is flying 470 delegates to Baku, can you imagine the bar bill, lets face it, it was a beano, we have Zoom now, WhatsApp so many computer aided devices we fly 470 people there. Macron did not go, Biden did not go, in fact United States, China, India, Canada, and Japan never sent any representatives. It is a joke event.

I agree conduirez, my thinking was we are constantly being labelled as bad boys and girls if we cause unnecessary CO2 emissions but it's another case of do as we say and not as we do! The Net Zero policy is simply to attract the JSO vote but it's a game they are going to have to play for 5 years.

[Archery1969]

Isn’t the UK global CO2 emissions less than 1% globally ?

Those concerned about it might want to go cause chaos in the USA, Canada, South America, South Africa, North Korea, India, Russia and China. Then go back to the UK and complain.

The problems the world are suffering now are due to what happened back 150 years during the Industrial Revolution around the world. Unfortunately, now, you can’t stop it, Earth, like everything living has a timeframe.

You can’t go back and fix the past. It’s done and settled.

[Kai]

You can’t go back and fix the past. It’s done and settled.

Yes, the technology is just not there yet.

[Archery1969]

You can’t go back and fix the past. It’s done and settled.

Yes, the technology is just not there yet.

It wil be too late when it is there unless your going to share it with USA, China, Russia and India. They are the world’s biggest polluters by far. And they won’t care until it really is too late.

The issue was first identified and raised by British engineer Guy Callendar in 1938. He was dismissed as being a nut job who should be locked up. So 86 years later, most people think he was correct. But those who count would probably still have him locked up today.

Funny old world….