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sionascaig
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Tells a story this...
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greenmark
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sionascaig wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:45 am
Tells a story this...

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It was always going to be that way. People don't remember who got us in this mess, they just blame the incumbent.
greenmark
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Labour have been in power for just over 5 months and people are grizzling that they haven't transformed our lives. It's completely, utterly potty.
If it was so easy why didn't the Tory/Lib dem, Tory govt's do it?
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firlandsfarm
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:25 am
Labour have been in power for just over 5 months and people are grizzling that they haven't transformed our lives. It's completely, utterly potty.
If it was so easy why didn't the Tory/Lib dem, Tory govt's do it?
I didn't expect them to transform anything in their first year nor did I expect them to increase unemployment, increase inflation, be at war with the farmers, increase the jobs tax, set out to destroy family firms and drown the entrepreneurial spirit of small businesses all in 5 months. I thought they would need the full 5 years to screw it up to that extent!
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jimibt
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:12 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:25 am
Labour have been in power for just over 5 months and people are grizzling that they haven't transformed our lives. It's completely, utterly potty.
If it was so easy why didn't the Tory/Lib dem, Tory govt's do it?
I didn't expect them to transform anything in their first year nor did I expect them to increase unemployment, increase inflation, be at war with the farmers, increase the jobs tax, set out to destroy family firms and drown the entrepreneurial spirit of small businesses all in 5 months. I thought they would need the full 5 years to screw it up to that extent!
aye - just goes to show. on the bright side, the price of penile implants seems to be unaffected!!
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firlandsfarm
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jimibt wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:14 pm
aye - just goes to show. on the bright side, the price of penile implants seems to be unaffected!!
Are you "on something" Jim?!
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jimibt
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:17 pm
jimibt wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:14 pm
aye - just goes to show. on the bright side, the price of penile implants seems to be unaffected!!
Are you "on something" Jim?!
yup...
greenmark
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:17 pm
jimibt wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:14 pm
aye - just goes to show. on the bright side, the price of penile implants seems to be unaffected!!
Are you "on something" Jim?!
Ditto.
I have know idea what jim is on about there. But Jim is an apex poster in my view. We need posters like Jimibt.
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jimibt
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:41 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:17 pm
jimibt wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:14 pm
aye - just goes to show. on the bright side, the price of penile implants seems to be unaffected!!
Are you "on something" Jim?!
Ditto.
I have know idea what jim is on about there. But Jim is an apex poster in my view. We need posters like Jimibt.
i'm just being overly subtle in my brash comment... in a word - FAIL :D
greenmark
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:12 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:25 am
Labour have been in power for just over 5 months and people are grizzling that they haven't transformed our lives. It's completely, utterly potty.
If it was so easy why didn't the Tory/Lib dem, Tory govt's do it?
I didn't expect them to transform anything in their first year nor did I expect them to increase unemployment, increase inflation, be at war with the farmers, increase the jobs tax, set out to destroy family firms and drown the entrepreneurial spirit of small businesses all in 5 months. I thought they would need the full 5 years to screw it up to that extent!
That's a fair summary. But only of 5 months. I will be with you if the FTSE and GDP are still flatlining (as they have for the lst 14 years) at the end of this parliament.
As I've said Labour will not win the next GE. Too much pain to be absorbed. They will get the blame for the last 14 years. No doubt about it.
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Thought Labour were committed to increasing defence spending to 2.5% :lol: One minute were letting Ukraine launch missiles into Russia then 10 mins later announce were making cuts to our forces, what a set of incomptent f@cking clowns.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-scrap- ... d-13257285

"The Royal Navy's two amphibious assault ships, HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark. They will be taken out of service at the end of the year - around a decade early in a blow to the ability of the Royal Marines to launch land assaults from the sea"
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ForFolksSake
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Interesting fact........

14 asylum hotels have opened since Labour came to power..... 🏨

one for each year the last Tory party was in power
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Euler
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The simple fact is that, during the Election Labour misled people, seemingly deliberately.

1.5 for the most seats at the next election was a bargain and seems to get better each day.
Michael5482
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Euler wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:03 pm
The simple fact is that, during the Election Labour misled people, seemingly deliberately.

1.5 for the most seats at the next election was a bargain and seems to get better each day.
I admire your patience potentially willing to wait 5 years to get paid out, there's hell on my end if Betfair haven't settled 10 mins after full time on a Saturday afternoon :lol:
Archery1969
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Michael5482 wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:06 pm
Thought Labour were committed to increasing defence spending to 2.5% :lol: One minute were letting Ukraine launch missiles into Russia then 10 mins later announce were making cuts to our forces, what a set of incomptent f@cking clowns.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-scrap- ... d-13257285

"The Royal Navy's two amphibious assault ships, HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark. They will be taken out of service at the end of the year - around a decade early in a blow to the ability of the Royal Marines to launch land assaults from the sea"
I been on those amphibious assault vessels with the RM’s more than once, great pieces of kit. Light, fast but yet have high stopping power for incoming rounds. I might sound like a broken record with Labour criticism but I not the only one scratching my head on that policy.

But if they going to get rid of them then give all the equipment to Ukraine to use. Yes they will lose some money rather than auction it all but they doing to save running costs over 5 years. They will still save that and in the meantime further help Ukraine.

I’m still scratching my head on the amphibious ships.

It’s like buying a new car, after 1 year you don’t like the colour, so buy another one. Fine if you can afford too but they supposed to be trying to save money. What a waste in procurement terms.

They might need them if Argentina chances its arm again.

Also, why not wait for the official defence review. I bet that report comes back and says they need more amphibious ships, not none!!!!
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