Linking horse and dog win with forecast markets

[jamesedwards]

What I can't quite figure out is how to apply the stored values. If I'm trying to do what I suggested in my op the automation will need to place a back bet on the selections 2nd and 3rd in order of favouritism. It will then need to store a value for these selections that can appear in the forecast market so that automation there will pick up the selections and place 2 forecast bets. I'm not sure the odds are as good in the reverse forecast market. But what value would I need to store in the first instance?

I think tootall's idea was to store a couple of values made up of the first letter of the 2nd and 3rd fav names with a " - " in the middle. So you end up with "X - X" so eg "1 - 2" and "2 - 1". You can then use these SVs to trigger a bet on selections with those names within the forecast market.

But you'd have to do something clever to get around the whole bet angel level thing. Perhaps you could make it so the off times of the two markets match or something, then as long as there are no two greyhound races with the same offtime loaded that might work?

Thanks again for your input.

As a bit of fun I've built this for you.

This works as follows:
> You need to set this rulesfile against both the WIN and FORECAST markets for each race you want to trade.
> Between 30 secs and 0 secs out it uses info in the WIN market to create a text stored value for each of the two forecasts; [2nd fav - 3rd fav], and [3rd fav - 2nd fav].
> It then places a 10p bet in the forecast market for every selection where the selection name = the text stored value saved from above.

Due to the limitation of different event names it has to use values saved at Bet Angel level to cross the two markets. This means if there are markets with the same off time then it will not work correctly and may place bets on the wrong forecast selections. It also means you cannot extend the trigger time beyond 30 secs out without risk of crossing SVs from one market into another.

Use in practise mode first to check it is performing as you expect.

test8.baf

Good luck!

[jamesedwards]

I've tested it for 20 races this afternoon and working fine.

The reward for my effort is +£4.29 when the forecast came up in 5 out of 20 races!

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thanks for making that file, its really cool I had my first race come up with the forecast just there. Looking forward to experimenting with it.

[ANGELS15]

I think tootall's idea was to store a couple of values made up of the first letter of the 2nd and 3rd fav names with a " - " in the middle. So you end up with "X - X" so eg "1 - 2" and "2 - 1". You can then use these SVs to trigger a bet on selections with those names within the forecast market.

But you'd have to do something clever to get around the whole bet angel level thing. Perhaps you could make it so the off times of the two markets match or something, then as long as there are no two greyhound races with the same offtime loaded that might work?

Thanks again for your input.

As a bit of fun I've built this for you.

This works as follows:
> You need to set this rulesfile against both the WIN and FORECAST markets for each race you want to trade.
> Between 30 secs and 0 secs out it uses info in the WIN market to create a text stored value for each of the two forecasts; [2nd fav - 3rd fav], and [3rd fav - 2nd fav].
> It then places a 10p bet in the forecast market for every selection where the selection name = the text stored value saved from above.

Due to the limitation of different event names it has to use values saved at Bet Angel level to cross the two markets. This means if there are markets with the same off time then it will not work correctly and may place bets on the wrong forecast selections. It also means you cannot extend the trigger time beyond 30 secs out without risk of crossing SVs from one market into another.

Use in practise mode first to check it is performing as you expect.


test8.baf


Good luck!

Thanks so much for doing this! I really appreciate it. I have a small problem though. Unfortunately I'm restricted to an old version of Bet Angel at the moment (I'm using v1.56.0.b1).

My Windows 10 Acer tablet has a very low memory capacity. I've been using Bet Angel since 2016 and been able to update new versions until about 2 years ago and then found that it needed several gigs to do the next update so I've not updated for a while.

I'll try anyway just in case it does work.

[jamesedwards]

Thanks again for your input.

As a bit of fun I've built this for you.

This works as follows:
> You need to set this rulesfile against both the WIN and FORECAST markets for each race you want to trade.
> Between 30 secs and 0 secs out it uses info in the WIN market to create a text stored value for each of the two forecasts; [2nd fav - 3rd fav], and [3rd fav - 2nd fav].
> It then places a 10p bet in the forecast market for every selection where the selection name = the text stored value saved from above.

Due to the limitation of different event names it has to use values saved at Bet Angel level to cross the two markets. This means if there are markets with the same off time then it will not work correctly and may place bets on the wrong forecast selections. It also means you cannot extend the trigger time beyond 30 secs out without risk of crossing SVs from one market into another.

Use in practise mode first to check it is performing as you expect.


test8.baf


Good luck!

Thanks so much for doing this! I really appreciate it. I have a small problem though. Unfortunately I'm restricted to an old version of Bet Angel at the moment (I'm using v1.56.0.b1).

My Windows 10 Acer tablet has a very low memory capacity. I've been using Bet Angel since 2016 and been able to update new versions until about 2 years ago and then found that it needed several gigs to do the next update so I've not updated for a while.

I'll try anyway just in case it does work.

You're gonna need to update I'm afraid. Time to upgrade your hardware also?

[ANGELS15]

Hi James

I tried to update just now but no go. The pc is looking for files I havn't got. The low memory capacity of my tablet means I've been unable to update it for several years. Other priorities have gotten in the way.

I'll try and get a new computer in the new year.

There is a possibility that I may be able to re-create the file on this old version.

I there any chance you could send or post screen shots of the stages in creating it?

Thanks again for what you've done.

Apologies if this message is repeated, I thought I'd replied but the reply seems to have disappeared.

[jamesedwards]

Hi James

I tried to update just now but no go. The pc is looking for files I havn't got. The low memory capacity of my tablet means I've been unable to update it for several years. Other priorities have gotten in the way.

I'll try and get a new computer in the new year.

There is a possibility that I may be able to re-create the file on this old version.

I there any chance you could send or post screen shots of the stages in creating it?

Thanks again for what you've done.

Apologies if this message is repeated, I thought I'd replied but the reply seems to have disappeared.

Here's a video.

https://file.io/9glPCxY182Dl

[ANGELS15]

Hi James

I tried to update just now but no go. The pc is looking for files I havn't got. The low memory capacity of my tablet means I've been unable to update it for several years. Other priorities have gotten in the way.

I'll try and get a new computer in the new year.

There is a possibility that I may be able to re-create the file on this old version.

I there any chance you could send or post screen shots of the stages in creating it?

Thanks again for what you've done.

Apologies if this message is repeated, I thought I'd replied but the reply seems to have disappeared.

Here's a video.

https://file.io/9glPCxY182Dl

Thanks again!