The 2025 Trump Tantrum Tariff sell-off

[peachflame]

Maybe the EU needs to remind US that they run a $100bn surplus in services...

[jimibt]

Maybe the EU needs to remind US that they run a $100bn surplus in services...

this one keeps coming back to me also. that said, i'm sure that the legal entity set up of having offices in dublin and brussels etc, puts them into a grey area. grr....

[ForFolksSake]

Maybe the EU needs to remind US that they run a $100bn surplus in services...

US has “escalation dominance” over the EU

[elofan0]

If all europe stuck together with Canada the USA might just lose the edge

[ForFolksSake]

If all europe stuck together with Canada the USA might just lose the edge

Pharma companies are the elephant in the room

Could end up devastating the EU and UK

[ruthlessimon]

The reason I'm personally scared, and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Trump indirectly attacking American corporations?

i.e. Vietnam isn't ripping off America. Nike is ripping off America (cheap labour, profit to shareholders), but us foreign investors need Nike to manufacture in Vietnam.

[ForFolksSake]

The reason I'm personally scared, and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Trump indirectly attacking American corporations?

i.e. Vietnam isn't ripping off America. Nike is ripping off America (cheap labour, profit to shareholders), but us foreign investors need Nike to manufacture in Vietnam.

Globalisation is bad for the US

[sionascaig]

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This is the elephant in the room.

A lot of that debt is held by overseas entities, mainly China.

===> America reacting to level of debt / interest & China will be worried about default.

[ruthlessimon]

Globalisation is bad for the US

If Trump believes that, imho, the S&P 500 cannot justify a 30 P/E....

[ForFolksSake]

Globalisation is bad for the US

If Trump believes that, imho, the S&P 500 cannot justify a 30 P/E....

The main reason to be scared is if something 'breaks' that they haven't thought of
e.g Liz/Kwasi effect

[ForFolksSake]

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This is the elephant in the room.

A lot of that debt is held by overseas entities, mainly China.

===> America reacting to level of debt / interest & China will be worried about default.

So China owns US debt and the US owns everyone else's debt more or less ?

[Naffman]

Screenshot 2025-04-08 163510.png

This is the elephant in the room.

A lot of that debt is held by overseas entities, mainly China.

===> America reacting to level of debt / interest & China will be worried about default.

So China owns US debt and the US owns everyone else's debt more or less ?

So we'll all go bust together

[ForFolksSake]

Screenshot 2025-04-08 163510.png

This is the elephant in the room.

A lot of that debt is held by overseas entities, mainly China.

===> America reacting to level of debt / interest & China will be worried about default.

So China owns US debt and the US owns everyone else's debt more or less ?

So we'll all go bust together

The idea of the Tariff's is to adjust US debt down everybody else's up so it more or less all balance's 'out and hope nothing breaks in the process

[Naffman]

Ftse in for a bad day tomorrow

[ruthlessimon]

Wonder if (early) today was the last boat off the titanic