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MemphisFlash
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Euler wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 11:54 pm
No public votes for the UK, that's harsh.

that's not harsh, that is the political vote that Uk has no friends in europe
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Not sure what the figures were like overall but another sad in-play BF market, used to be loads of money flying around as the votes came in
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Naffman
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I spent £3 (20 votes) for Austria and they didn't get any points from UK Tele :(
Nacho
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Did you make a trade on the massive Israel public vote score, Peter (or anyone else)? Out to 1000 and then in to 8!

Israel were still available to back in the hundreds even after their score was announced. I was put off by Norton saying he thought their total wasn't enough!

It occurs to me that, politically speaking, everyone across Europe who supports Israel had a clear way to express it in the public vote, but those who feel negatively towards Israel had no way of doing so. My mistake was to consider the millions of people across Europe who currently harbour negative feelings towards Israel, because it didn't matter a jot. I good example of not thinking about the problem properly.

Other than that, my Eurovision takeaway is that It's pretty straightforward to trade the waves of momentum in the price during the jury vote. Sweden and Austria both moving against each other in beautiful parabolic shapes.
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Naffman
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SF1 results are out, Sweden odds on to win and came 4th! Think that proves theres no insider money, if someone know they'd have been double figures in the Final

Does anyone know if there's a job opening at the EBU? :lol:
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Nacho wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 12:30 am
It occurs to me that, politically speaking, everyone across Europe who supports Israel had a clear way to express it in the public vote, but those who feel negatively towards Israel had no way of doing so.
Interesting point. I was convinced Israel would do badly due to ongoing situation and "The Settlers" documentary which went viral - not easy for a documentary.

Let the conspiracy theories commence...
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Euler
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Here is how the market moved last night

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Euler
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More analysis
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Naffman
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The YouTube stats (Austria doing far better than France, Estonia doing far better than Sweden) weren’t far off again, but the Grand Final Audience Poll on Friday showed Sweden had serious problems.
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Naffman wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 2:58 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 2:50 pm
LeTiss wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 1:02 pm


Last year they won the UK vote. The song was average, but people wanted to stick two fingers up to all the Palestinian flag wavers. I suspect the same will happen this year
100% agree. I expect Israel to be top 5 overall.

CS
Definitely will have less televote than last year and jury won’t support them again so imagine they could scrape 5th at best
Hate to say it... BUT I TOLD YOU SO! 😁😉 The entire West is still appalled that Hamas still have 59 hostages and this was felt very strongly in the jury vote as I expected it to be. I loved hearing the homosexual BBC commentator Graham Norton when it looked that Israel had won, just prior to the Austria jury vote.

Can you imagine the BBC and wokesters everywhere attending next year's ESC in Tel Aviv? Thoroughly enjoyable evening and my back bet on Israel at 80s was oh so close...

CS
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Euler wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 11:54 pm
No public votes for the UK, that's harsh.
...and yet even more harsh - no televotes votes for SWI - 214 from the jury yet 0 from the public televote!!!
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Crazyskier wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:32 am
I loved hearing the homosexual BBC commentator Graham Norton when it looked that Israel had won, just prior to the Austria jury vote.
I imagine you mean 'just prior to the Austria public vote'.
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Tuco wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 12:37 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:32 am
I loved hearing the homosexual BBC commentator Graham Norton when it looked that Israel had won, just prior to the Austria jury vote.
I imagine you mean 'just prior to the Austria public vote'.
Indeed, thank you for the correction. It was a moment of pure joy hearing Norton concede that Israel might have won it.

I can only imagine the horror felt by those flag-waving, anti-semitic fools.

CS
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Naffman
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I'm not sure if Israel are cheating or not but the televote process needs an overhaul, perhaps you can vote 5 times but only 3 times max for your fav etc.

The UK majority does not approve of Israel yet they got 12pts, its becoming a bit of a farce and as a supporter of Ukraine it is too (their song would've NQ'd in a normal year)
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Naffman wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 7:17 pm

The UK majority does not approve of Israel yet they got 12pts, its becoming a bit of a farce and as a supporter of Ukraine it is too (their song would've NQ'd in a normal year)
Nacho had the answer in an earlier post:

"It occurs to me that, politically speaking, everyone across Europe who supports Israel had a clear way to express it in the public vote, but those who feel negatively towards Israel had no way of doing so. My mistake was to consider the millions of people across Europe who currently harbour negative feelings towards Israel, because it didn't matter a jot. I good example of not thinking about the problem properly."

This is how Labour had such a high majority at the last general election despite one of the lowest vote shares ever. 99% of left wingers voted labour, only 62% of right wingers voted Tory.
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