Late suspensions at UK greyhound racing today

We've gone to the dogs.
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ShaunWhite
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 3:49 pm
consistently ruined by weak market management. Will eventually kill the SP markets.
It's the weak markets that's killing dog racing.

It's ages since I saw a dog race but I thought they suspended when the bell rings and the hare starts, at least 5-6s before the traps open for this exact reason?

.. Just watched one, suspended 3s before the bell. Not someone who's seen the start.
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But tbh this isn't much different to a strategy I had, (dogs and weak horses esp aus). Wait till the last knockings, smash the price where you can get a good avg price (money at touch but gaps and not much money below current) and lay it off immediately with anything remaining unmatched at SP. Basically creating your own move while there's no time to revert. But it wouldn't scale, the relatively big SP lay pushed the SP up again too much.

But I'm just a value stealing piece of shit so you'd expect that sort of shinanagins.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:41 pm
But tbh this isn't much different to a strategy I had, (dogs and weak horses esp aus). Wait till the last knockings, smash the price where you can get a good avg price (money at touch but gaps and not much money below current) and lay it off immediately with anything remaining unmatched at SP. Basically creating your own move while there's no time to revert. But it wouldn't scale, the relatively big SP lay pushed the SP up again too much.

But I'm just a value stealing piece of shit so you'd expect that sort of shinanagins.
It used to be quite easy to temporarily move the markets in Aus horse racing. Probably still is. Trouble is you needed to be sat watching every race to judge the last few seconds before off-time and I couldn't make the juice worth the squeeze.

Never thought about trying it on the dogs. No doubt the same problem applies.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:41 pm
But tbh this isn't much different to a strategy I had, (dogs and weak horses esp aus). Wait till the last knockings, smash the price where you can get a good avg price (money at touch but gaps and not much money below current) and lay it off immediately with anything remaining unmatched at SP. Basically creating your own move while there's no time to revert. But it wouldn't scale, the relatively big SP lay pushed the SP up again too much.

But I'm just a value stealing piece of shit so you'd expect that sort of shinanagins.
Oh Shaun...
"President Franklin D. Roosevelt supposedly remarked in 1939 that "Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch." "

But you risked there, so your approach is fair.
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On the many occasions BF fail to suspend before the off, they usually revert the market to the true 'pre-off' situation, in some cases cancelling perfectly legitimate bets. I myself had such a genuine pre off bet cancelled a few days ago due to the market staying open past the off. I hope they can fix it ASAP.

CS
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Crazyskier wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 5:41 pm
On the many occasions BF fail to suspend before the off, they usually revert the market to the true 'pre-off' situation, in some cases cancelling perfectly legitimate bets. I myself had such a genuine pre off bet cancelled a few days ago due to the market staying open past the off. I hope they can fix it ASAP.

CS
Was this a UK greyhound market? Do you know how long past true off-time the market was suspended?
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Only seen it at horse racing and greyhound when they completely missed to suspend for the entire race.
Doubt they will resettle especially since been going for a few days now. But even if it's 2-3 seconds late, In a short race the start is a very deciding factor for winning chances of a greyhound...
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napshnap wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:52 pm
Oh Shaun...
"President Franklin D. Roosevelt supposedly remarked in 1939 that "Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch." "

But you risked there, so your approach is fair.
;) just messing naps. Tbh what you said did make me laugh, I could feeeeel your annoyance with it.
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:49 pm
you needed to be sat watching every race to judge the last few seconds before off-time and I couldn't make the juice worth the squeeze.
I just ran it from a few secs after the schd start, not optimal but didn't want to watch TV 12hrs a day.
Like you say hard to make it pay so not vfm when it comes to effort.
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