Today's Horse Racing

[ForFolksSake]

It did look like it was coming strong the take the race. Are you using drone?

Pure automation/data driven 'back' bets at the 'mo'
... automation/data needs a 'tweak' as it was still placing 'back' bets on Spike Jones when it wasn't going to win
... which 'drone' service do you use if you don't mind me asking ?

Interesting! Back bets using TPD or just market movement?

There's only one main drone feed, but different ways of getting it. I get mine direct from the source which is the lowest latency, but pricey.

I'm not interested in using TPD/drones - I don't need them

[jamesedwards]

Bangor-on-Dee 15:00.

200 yards out with a jump to go is a bit early to be smashing the 1.01 button. Shabalko Dherm makes up a couple of lengths to get up on the line by a neck. £3k traded at the minimum.

[ForFolksSake]

Bangor-on-Dee 15:00.

200 yards out with a jump to go is a bit early to be smashing the 1.01 button. Shabalko Dherm makes up a couple of lengths to get up on the line by a neck. £3k traded at the minimum.

https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-po ... 55286/true

[jamesedwards]

Bangor-on-Dee 15:00.

200 yards out with a jump to go is a bit early to be smashing the 1.01 button. Shabalko Dherm makes up a couple of lengths to get up on the line by a neck. £3k traded at the minimum.

https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-po ... 55286/true

I never even thought to check the max price of the winner.

990 £3.13
1000 £2.13

[jamesedwards]

Chelmsford 20:15; £100s put up for the clear winner all the way up to 1.15 half a furlong out. What was all that in aid of? What did people see?

I regret to say I now see what it was. The phantom smash-in-the-price-of-a-late-withdrawal-to-try-and-shift-out-the-price-of-the-real-winner struck again and this time left with the gold!

The Phantom strikes during the day this time. Must have the afternoon off work.

Sedgefield 13:24, late non-runner and odds on fav Lunar Orbit gets smashed into 1.01 as the clear leader approaches the line.

Didn't work for him this time.

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[jamesedwards]

Punchestown today;

Centre of Attention ran as Don't Tell Jack in the 12:30. Both trained by the same trainer. Placed 7th and weighed in.

Fortunately someone finally noticed the swap before the 14:10 race and Centre of Attention was subsequently withdrawn.

Shambles!

[jamesedwards]

Punchestown today;

Centre of Attention ran as Don't Tell Jack in the 12:30. Both trained by the same trainer. Placed 7th and weighed in.

Fortunately someone finally noticed the swap before the 14:10 race and Centre of Attention was subsequently withdrawn.

Shambles!

They only realised an hour later when they scanned in Centre of Attention to be saddled for the 14:10 race and realised it was Don't Tell Jack.

YCMIU!


Prior to the running of the fifth race, the Raceday Stewards withdrew Centreofattention, trained by E. Bolger, as the horse presented to the IHRB for scanning after saddling as Centreofattention was in fact Don’t Tell Jack, also trained by E. Bolger. It subsequently became apparent that the horse Centreofattention had participated in the second race and not the declared horse Don’t Tell Jack, finishing unplaced. The Raceday Stewards interviewed Mr. Frank Berry, Authorised Representative for E.Bolger, M.P. Walsh, rider, Joan Taylor, IHRB Veterinary Officer and James Casey, IHRB Veterinary Assistant. Since the winner alright had been signalled following the second race, the Raceday Stewards were unable to take any further action in relation to that race, and referred the entire matter onto a Senior Racing Official for further investigation. Mr. J. Collins and Mr. C.J. O'Reilly recused themselves from this enquiry.

[JAC12345]

Hi,

Apologies if this goes to the wrong place on the forum. This is my 1st post after recently subscribing to Bet Angel after a few years backing and laying on Betfair and testing out various Betfair trading software. I'm still a bit of an amateur when it comes to automation.

I'm trying to set an automation rules backing to lay front runners and laying to back hold up horses both 10 seconds before the off. I can get the automation rules working ok and if the price moves in my favour and triggers the offset with greening, I'm winning quite often about 30% of my stake. The problem comes when the price moves against me and doesn't trigger the offset with greening so I lose my full stake when this happens.

I've tried putting a trailing stoploss on the initial back or lay bet but this seems to automatically trigger a second or 2 in-play for a 30% loss without giving my offset bet a chance to trigger, I've heard on one of the tutorial videos you cant take a trailing stoploss in-play? Has anyone got any tips on how I can set up my automation to take a % loss of my full stake if the price goes against me but still gives my initial offset bet with greening a chance to trigger? Much appreciated for any help or advice, cheers, John.

[Sonny]

Dundalk 17:30

How did Sovereign Cry not win that?

[jamesedwards]

Dundalk 17:30

How did Sovereign Cry not win that?

Funny angle there.

[jamesedwards]

Hi,

Apologies if this goes to the wrong place on the forum. This is my 1st post after recently subscribing to Bet Angel after a few years backing and laying on Betfair and testing out various Betfair trading software. I'm still a bit of an amateur when it comes to automation.

I'm trying to set an automation rules backing to lay front runners and laying to back hold up horses both 10 seconds before the off. I can get the automation rules working ok and if the price moves in my favour and triggers the offset with greening, I'm winning quite often about 30% of my stake. The problem comes when the price moves against me and doesn't trigger the offset with greening so I lose my full stake when this happens.

I've tried putting a trailing stoploss on the initial back or lay bet but this seems to automatically trigger a second or 2 in-play for a 30% loss without giving my offset bet a chance to trigger, I've heard on one of the tutorial videos you cant take a trailing stoploss in-play? Has anyone got any tips on how I can set up my automation to take a % loss of my full stake if the price goes against me but still gives my initial offset bet with greening a chance to trigger? Much appreciated for any help or advice, cheers, John.

The issue with trying to green up in-play on a horse race is there is a second delay between the bet trigger and it hitting the market. In that second the market can move significantly and you'll find that often your trades won't match, and the mechanics of the exchange mean the trades that match will be the poorer value while the trades that don't match will be the good value ones.

Perhaps investigate lowering your up-front stake but letting the bet ride no matter what. Not only does this negate the greening in-play problem but it should also return a higher ROI in the long run also because you won't be blindly greening up and giving away value.

[ForFolksSake]

Todays Angle for the dangle

Dundalk 17:30
... surprised Gavoo's max odds were only 15 - had a lot to do 2F out

https://www.racingtv.com/watch/replays/ ... ndalk/1730

[Sonny]

Dundalk 19.30.jpg

"Improved but outclassed when finishing down the field in a maiden over 11f here last time. Effective at 10f on AW but hard to make a case for."
attheraces.com

Syosset - 120 BSP winner

In-running carnage.

The usual at Dundalk, I guess.
<shrug>

[JAC12345]

Hi,

Apologies if this goes to the wrong place on the forum. This is my 1st post after recently subscribing to Bet Angel after a few years backing and laying on Betfair and testing out various Betfair trading software. I'm still a bit of an amateur when it comes to automation.

I'm trying to set an automation rules backing to lay front runners and laying to back hold up horses both 10 seconds before the off. I can get the automation rules working ok and if the price moves in my favour and triggers the offset with greening, I'm winning quite often about 30% of my stake. The problem comes when the price moves against me and doesn't trigger the offset with greening so I lose my full stake when this happens.

I've tried putting a trailing stoploss on the initial back or lay bet but this seems to automatically trigger a second or 2 in-play for a 30% loss without giving my offset bet a chance to trigger, I've heard on one of the tutorial videos you cant take a trailing stoploss in-play? Has anyone got any tips on how I can set up my automation to take a % loss of my full stake if the price goes against me but still gives my initial offset bet with greening a chance to trigger? Much appreciated for any help or advice, cheers, John.

The issue with trying to green up in-play on a horse race is there is a second delay between the bet trigger and it hitting the market. In that second the market can move significantly and you'll find that often your trades won't match, and the mechanics of the exchange mean the trades that match will be the poorer value while the trades that don't match will be the good value ones.

Perhaps investigate lowering your up-front stake but letting the bet ride no matter what. Not only does this negate the greening in-play problem but it should also return a higher ROI in the long run also because you won't be blindly greening up and giving away value.

Cheers James. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.