UK General Election 2029 - Trading ONLY thread

[firlandsfarm]

Braveman joins Reform and receives an amazing welcome. And now there are 8 And how nice it is to see two brilliant public speakers who don't need reams of notes to keep referring to (no names of course!).

[Euler]

I think it's a fastinating market and a fastinating election.

Labour have lost it already and will surely hit the panic button at some point. Reform have the momentum but not the team. Conversatives need to do a lot of work to be relevant.

[LeTiss]

Labour will hang on for as long as they can. They won't call a GE until 2029. I think something extraordinary will need to happen for a GE before then......but 3 years is a very long time in politics, much can happen between now and then, especially with regards to Reform and Greens rise

[Euler]

It's interesting to see the surge in the greens. Before I even looked at the stats, I knew they would appeal to younger voters, as their policies are pure fantasy. Younger people haven't built the cynicism and battle scars, and don't realise politicians will say anything to get your vote.

I do think politicians should bear some moral hazard for their decisions. Also, it's incredible somebody can walk in off the street and get a £500k contract with no experience or qualifications.

I often feel the whole system is broken and geared to the wrong outcomes.

[firlandsfarm]

It's interesting to see the surge in the greens. Before I even looked at the stats, I knew they would appeal to younger voters, as their policies are pure fantasy. Younger people haven't built the cynicism and battle scars, and don't realise politicians will say anything to get your vote.

I do think politicians should bear some moral hazard for their decisions. Also, it's incredible somebody can walk in off the street and get a £500k contract with no experience or qualifications.

I often feel the whole system is broken and geared to the wrong outcomes.

Trouble is those with the power and ability to change it are the ones enjoying it!

[firlandsfarm]

Great news ... Starmer has negotiated that outboard engines from China will have to be stamped "not for use in the English Channel". How can he possibly lose the next GE with that on his side!

[ForFolksSake]

Johnson, Hancock, Cummings destroyed the Tories

.... Starmer, Mandelson, Rayner destroyed Labour

YCMIU

[firlandsfarm]

Johnson, Hancock, Cummings destroyed the Tories

.... Starmer, Mandelson, Rayner destroyed Labour

YCMIU

Yeah but I hate to think what Rayner could do with that majority!

[jamesedwards]

All the Labour MPs have clearly been told to wax lyrical all over social media about how they have just voted to remove the two-child cap, and that the evil Farage plans to bring it back.

Yet the common consensus with the proletariat seems to be in favour of the cap! Another spectacular own goal...

When will they start listening to what the people actually want, rather than what they think the people should want.

[Naffman]

All the Labour MPs have clearly been told to wax lyrical all over social media about how they have just voted to remove the two-child cap, and that the evil Farage plans to bring it back.

Yet the common consensus with the proletariat seems to be in favour of the cap! Another spectacular own goal...

When will they start listening to what the people actually want, rather than what they think the people should want.

Seems like they're trying to go more left, but those people have already gone to the Greens so they're just making it so much worse.

You could argue that the only thing stopping them having a wipeout is that they've got so many incumbents, but its really hard to see them keeping that many.

[tico]

For you traders out there
With the latest comments from the Reform Galton By-Election candidate Matt Goodwin there should be a bit more of a swing to the Greens. Goodwin seems to think we should tax couples who dont have kids . An amazingly out of touch view for the party that boasts it has the people on it's side .
Regards
Tico

[Euler]

All the Labour MPs have clearly been told to wax lyrical all over social media about how they have just voted to remove the two-child cap, and that the evil Farage plans to bring it back.

Yet the common consensus with the proletariat seems to be in favour of the cap! Another spectacular own goal...

When will they start listening to what the people actually want, rather than what they think the people should want.

Y, I noticed that. They seemed to go for the, "They voted for starving children' line almost verbatim across many MP's.

I really dislike the fact that they all use the word child poverty, without explaining that it's relative poverty. It's pretty deceptive. You have people defending it, thinking that they are talking about starving children when in fact they are talking about families on less than two-thirds of the average income. Completely different context.

[tico]

I really dislike the fact that they all use the word child poverty, without explaining that it's relative poverty. It's pretty deceptive. You have people defending it, thinking that they are talking about starving children when in fact they are talking about families on less than two-thirds of the average income. Completely different context.
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I should imagine that families living on less than two-thirds of the average income are near are well below the poverty level .OK we are not talking about Victorian workhouses (although Reform would willingly bring those back) but we are talking about children whose present lives are significently effected by low incomes and bad housing . Compare this to rich kids who get the best education and the best jobs .Poverty in childhood is a major factor in the wipeout of peoples potential.
Tico

[tico]

Hi all,
I see Angela Rayner is now fav for next labour leader with Wes Streeting second fav.Starmer is stubborn and the lobby who are pulling his strings(and we all know who they are) wont want to let go of their puppet .But Rayner is as safe as Starmer and fully committed to the Blairite idealogy and arse licking to the rich ,so they might insist that Starmer makes a grand entrance just to give Labour a bit of a facelift .Loads of volatility here ,I might even be tempted to have a trade
Regards
Tico

[Euler]

I really dislike the fact that they all use the word child poverty, without explaining that it's relative poverty. It's pretty deceptive. You have people defending it, thinking that they are talking about starving children when in fact they are talking about families on less than two-thirds of the average income. Completely different context.
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I should imagine that families living on less than two-thirds of the average income are near are well below the poverty level .OK we are not talking about Victorian workhouses (although Reform would willingly bring those back) but we are talking about children whose present lives are significently effected by low incomes and bad housing . Compare this to rich kids who get the best education and the best jobs .Poverty in childhood is a major factor in the wipeout of peoples potential.
Tico

People probably don't realise, but I grew up in a very poor household. My parents had no money, and when my Mum died, we pretty much had nothing.

I took a part-time job at 12 to help pay my way. In winter, we would collect wood to burn in the fire so we wouldn't have to use the heating as much.

I realise what a difference a good start can make. But my escape was realising I had the opportunity to better myself. I saw poverty first-hand and didn't want to live like that. I wanted a better life.

The lesson I learned from that period was that I wanted equality of opportunity, not outcome. I think showering people with cash to flatten the curve, achieves the latter.