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PeterLe
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Just to add to JG's comments; you can also automate this with the excel function by scanning col G so you dont have to sit there watching. If during the race two prices are below 2's then it is a close race (similarly, if three prices are below 3's then ditto). At this end of the scale the figures will tell you if its a close race.

It can be done, but bloody hard work if you are looking below 1.03 as there is always money in front of the queue. Why not look a little higher up the ladder?? Good luck
dmrsls
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I've made a rule for ltf triggering at first sec in play.I used lay 1.80 and I tried also lay all 3.35 , 2.80 , 2.30 , 1.80 , 1.50.I didn't understand "....by scanning col G so you dont have to sit there watching".What is col G?(sorry if i ask silly questions...I'm new..)
rogerlisa
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I am also very new but am learning steadily. Please could you advise me of where I will find the info on setting up the excel sheets etc for setting rules etc. I am not asking for some one to tell me as you all had to learn, but where will I find the info. Also do you think that trading is better done using excel? What are the advantageous and disadvantage's?
PeterLe
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dmrsls wrote:I've made a rule for ltf triggering at first sec in play.I used lay 1.80 and I tried also lay all 3.35 , 2.80 , 2.30 , 1.80 , 1.50.I didn't understand "....by scanning col G so you dont have to sit there watching".What is col G?(sorry if i ask silly questions...I'm new..)
Hi
When you downloaded BA to your desktop, you would have also downloaded some excel templates that you can connect.
Within the excel spreadsheet, it constantly updates the odds, horse names; vol matched etc. Col G denotes the current back price on each horse.
If you connect it, I would suggest that you do so in practice mode.
Regards
Peter
PeterLe
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rogerlisa wrote:I am also very new but am learning steadily. Please could you advise me of where I will find the info on setting up the excel sheets etc for setting rules etc. I am not asking for some one to tell me as you all had to learn, but where will I find the info. Also do you think that trading is better done using excel? What are the advantageous and disadvantage's?
Roger
The best place to look i on Betangel.tv there are lots of good examples and step by step guides.
Advantages: You can place lots of bets on auto depending upon the rules you set.
Disadvantages: An excel spreadsheet will do EXACTLY what you program it to do. If it is coded badly, you will lose money
Regards
Peter
rogerlisa
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Right chaps I nearly made a cock up.... On the place market I laid the field before the race at good prices. On realising that all were showing profit I tried to get out but for some reason I could not trade out. The race went in play and I still could not trade out. Why? As luck would have it I made a small profit. But I dont want to make the same mistake again. What did I do wrong or is there a glich sometimes?
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CaerMyrddin
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When using bookmaking or dutching you shouldn't trade out manually, as you said yourself 'all were showing profit'. There's even an option not to show greening when bookmaking or dutching.
freddy
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Not sure why you needed to get out if all were showing profit ?

but also remember the place market works differently than the win market.

not sure how it works in BA but on the betfair site it shows profit per horse rather than across the whole market like normal.
dmrsls
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Thanks Peter!
rogerlisa
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Thanks for responses. The reason I wanted to trade out was for fear of things changing and going red like happens to me more than I would like.
Another one for you now.... I am in practice mode and favourite is at 5.6 I try and lay a bet at 9.0 expecting the market to shift up. For some reason BA is automatically giving me current price of 5.6. Why o why I havent set any automation as yet and for the life of me I cant see what I have clicked. Help its really annoying me and ruining my practice and theory testing??????????
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Euler
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You will always get matched at best price, that's driven by the exchange mechanism.
rogerlisa
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No. Maybe I didnt explain it properly? When I was trading yesterday it did not happen I could set as I wished but today in practice mode it is doing it. I have buggered soemthing up somewhere but dont know where
freddy
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Not really sure what you mean, but as Peter said if you placed a lay bet at 5.4 than you would only be matched at 5.4 or better.

That's how Betfair works you only ever get what odds you asked for or better.
rogerlisa
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Yes sorry. Yes you are both right I was trying to do something really different and forgetting that you cannot lay above the market. I was thinking I could I could just wait for it to be filled when the market moved. drr what was i thinking
GranpaChook
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Why would you want to be layed at 9 when you can lay at 5.4?! That's madness! You could set up a rule that lays at 9 when that price is reached though. So if you selection is currently trading at 5.4 and it drifts out to 9 if you then want to lay it a fairly simple rule could be made to accommodate that I should think.
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