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steven1976
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Back to business on this thread. I got involved with this one when we had 10 seconds to off, the market turned heavily against me but i was scratching as it came in from 4.2 to 3.6 just before the off. At the off he flew out to 80s within a second so i guess he was kicking up?

Hoku 4pm Lingfield 6F.
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switesh
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Didn't know what happened to this fav at Ling in the last 3 mins as I heard nothing negative on radio. Traders with live pics might have spotted this.
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L.o.S
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Hi Switesh,

I've changed my staking to try an start dealing with that kind of situation (cutting out of good trades), so I've divided my stake by two/three and I take a first position and then add the rest in if it moves the right way.

Got the idea from Mugs, but it does make a lot more sense because if it goes against you can give yourself more leeway and still lose less than putting all in at once.

Early impressions since I changed that two days ago is it makes trading much less stressed because if it moves against at first the red figure is halved or more. I'm finding that I'm less caught up in market noise, and better able to focus on what's actually going on.

Hope that helps!
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Euler
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Nice little trading angle here. Had my eyes on Madame Giry as she was rearing a lot in the stalls. Eventually ran but a bad start.
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switesh
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Fav in the 4:30 Beg Chs at Tipp.

The crazy effect you often get to see in weak markets in the dying seconds before the actual off.
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steven1976
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Was that before the off or just after switesh? I Don't usually see them like that before the off but I do see them after the off.
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jimrobo
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it was before the off at exactly 0 seconds on the clock. It went a bit crazy but note the small volume!!!
switesh
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It happens between last few seconds of actual off and into the post-time.

The 'Late Layer' effect happens in similar time-frame too. But since this one at Tipp was a weak market the effect is easily enhanced.
steven1976
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It was the lack of volume after the initial 2k order that had me confused as to whether it was in play which is why I asked. The volumes after that bet suggest there was virtually nothing there.

I'd actually just packed in on the race before to watch the open and noticed a similar effect but with a back bet on betdaq. It was only 1000 quid but it felt different to the money I was playing against and came about 3 seconds before the off and seemed to lead to a little panic at the front as I expect late bets on bd can be hard to sell out in play, especially on short races.
switesh
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Look at this spooky looking chart from the 7:00 Hcap at Beverly.

I was trading it opposing the gambles at bottom and looking to scale out as it pushed out a little bit. On 3 attempts I let the profit run over 4 ticks and it crashed again at scratch.

Being greedy I suppose ;) Left empty handed.
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James1st
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Cannot see quite what was "spooky" about that chart Switesh; nor can I understand why you were opposing it?

That horse (Alpine) was the 2nd fav in a race where Saint Thomas (the fav) had been heavily backed early doors down to 2.46 and pre post time was being opposed as a weak favourite all the way out to 3.15 (this was a nice lay and the one I traded). In the meantime the 3rd fav was attracting money, so it shouldn't have come as a surprise that the 2nd fav was simply range bound and yo-yoing.
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hgodden
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Beat that one! 1.27 up to well over 1.4s just before the off
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herbie
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was cracking, that was.... :D
hgodden
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I bailed way too early, still made a fair chunk but could have been a day or twos profit in one swoop!

Did you get much Herbie?
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