US Presidential Election 2020

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Derek27
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The first sledge full of ballot papers has arrived at the polling station in Alaska. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:02 pm
The first sledge full of ballot papers has arrived at the polling station in Alaska. :)
If they all go Bidens way its because the Husky's ate the Trump voters 🙄
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abgespaced wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:43 am
The problem was handled by the Democrats long before the counting started. Suppression polling, intimidation, confiscating/burning/discarding postal ballots, votes from dead people and cats. Biden knew he was going to win because of these tactics. In his own words he has "the best election fraud team". That's why he made a speech before Trump did, to force Trumps hand while holding all the aces. Now the left wing has more fuel for their fires. Watch the violence escalate and be blamed on Trump.
Don't forget, Trump was advising his supporters to vote twice, now he's calling the election a fraud. :lol:
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Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:01 pm
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Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:58 am
Reading more on it PA seems to be refusing the GOP from observing mail-in ballots which is against the law - think the same has happened in Wisconsin.

So that's allegedly why they wanted the vote to stop being counted...
Typical Dems.

There was a GOP poll watcher in Philadelphia who was refused entry to a polling station because of some confusion over the legitimacy of his certification but he was eventually allowed in. To say its happening in multiple districts around key states is just another tactic to cast doubt over the legitimacy of the election. Just like the video that was circulated by most of the Trumps and Nosferatu Giuliani claiming to show people burning Trump ballots which later turned out to be fake.

If you take a look at DT and his families Twitter feeds they read like a conspiracy theorists wet dream. If he loses this election it will 'of course' be because of some underhand tricks or cheating by the democrats :roll:
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Trader Pat wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:13 pm
napshnap wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:01 pm
Naffman wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:58 am
Reading more on it PA seems to be refusing the GOP from observing mail-in ballots which is against the law - think the same has happened in Wisconsin.

So that's allegedly why they wanted the vote to stop being counted...
Typical Dems.

There was a GOP poll watcher in Philadelphia who was refused entry to a polling station because of some confusion over the legitimacy of his certification but he was eventually allowed in. To say its happening in multiple districts around key states is just another tactic to cast doubt over the legitimacy of the election. Just like the video that was circulated by most of the Trumps and Nosferatu Giuliani claiming to show people burning Trump ballots which later turned out to be fake.

If you take a look at DT and his families Twitter feeds they read like a conspiracy theorists wet dream. If he loses this election it will 'of course' be because of some underhand tricks or cheating by the democrats :roll:
If Trump loses - it seems clearly important for his ego and future mental state that he truly believes he won and was a victim of a (MASSIVE) fraud. I take all these comments from him as part theatre (which I don’t like because it’s dangerous) and part self protective narcissism. He doesn’t try to filter any of his thoughts anymore because he views mass media as unreliable (and while we can all argue about it) he has good reason to have no faith in media that used to report the news. Now he’s unhinged and they don’t even need to twist his words.

If Trump loses and things go as they look now for the senate, the GOP throw a party. Trump, the mad king is gone, the senate is in tact, Biden is weak with no mandate from a landslide and they have two years to get set to win back the house and then look towards 2024. Plenty in the GOP would be very happy.
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gazuty wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:24 pm
If Trump loses and things go as they look now for the senate, the GOP throw a party. Trump, the mad king is gone, the senate is in tact, Biden is weak with no mandate from a landslide and they have two years to get set to win back the house and then look towards 2024. Plenty in the GOP would be very happy.
Can't argue with that.

Before this election I was thinking that if Trump lost then the GOP will turn on him but I'm not as sure now. If he loses he could run again in 2024 and he would probably keep his base. Some of the GOP will turn on him but some probably won't.

I think his most likely next step if he loses would be to buy out OANN and make Fox look liberal in comparison. He would have a massive platform to push any old BS that he wants to and probably be more influential in politics than Fox are.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:13 pm

If you take a look at DT and his families Twitter feeds they read like a conspiracy theorists wet dream. If he loses this election it will 'of course' be because of some underhand tricks or cheating by the democrats :roll:
No, cause they have most of the major media and there is an unprecedented smearing campaign against Trump. Seriously, I can't watch my favorite shows (Simpsons, Famguy, Southpark, Space Force and etcetera) without being propaganded how bad and unproggresive Trump is :evil: !
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napshnap wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:38 pm
No, cause they have most of the major media and there is an unprecedented smearing campaign against Trump. Seriously, I can't watch my favorite shows (Simpsons, Famguy, Southpark, Space Force and etcetera) without being propaganded how bad and unproggresive Trump is :evil: !
Don't think you need Bart Simpson to tell you how 'bad and unprogressive' Trump is.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:36 am
There is tonnes of videos online regarding fraud, is any of it true, who knows. There is videos of boxes of ballots being dropped off to closed counting stations in the dead of night, videos of Democrats setting fire to a bag of Republican Ballots, boxes of dumped ballots that never made it to be counted. Polling stations issuing sharpie pens in Republican areas. Is any of it true, maybe, maybe not. I think in total there were 4 " data errors" that acurred during the counting all favouring Biden, an extra 0 on the count etc... anyway rambling on.
How do they know the boxes being dropped off or the bags being dumped contained ballots? Those polling stations must have a lot of plastic coffee cups, waste paper, litter, etc. that needs to be dumped. :)

The Republicans are so desperate now they're getting hysterical. Many of the allegations were quickly debunked, such as a television crew confirming they were dropping off equipment in the middle of the night.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:42 pm
napshnap wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:38 pm
No, cause they have most of the major media and there is an unprecedented smearing campaign against Trump. Seriously, I can't watch my favorite shows (Simpsons, Famguy, Southpark, Space Force and etcetera) without being propaganded how bad and unproggresive Trump is :evil: !
Don't think you need Bart Simpson to tell you how 'bad and unprogressive' Trump is.
I don't, but there are many weak people who can be easily brainwashed. I don't like this politization, but if you do it then at least don't make it so frankly, cause you know ... it's not so democratic!
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napshnap wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:53 pm
I don't, but there are many weak people who can be easily brainwashed.
Amen to that
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:51 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:36 am
There is tonnes of videos online regarding fraud, is any of it true, who knows. There is videos of boxes of ballots being dropped off to closed counting stations in the dead of night, videos of Democrats setting fire to a bag of Republican Ballots, boxes of dumped ballots that never made it to be counted. Polling stations issuing sharpie pens in Republican areas. Is any of it true, maybe, maybe not. I think in total there were 4 " data errors" that acurred during the counting all favouring Biden, an extra 0 on the count etc... anyway rambling on.
How do they know the boxes being dropped off or the bags being dumped contained ballots? Those polling stations must have a lot of plastic coffee cups, waste paper, litter, etc. that needs to be dumped. :)

The Republicans are so desperate now they're getting hysterical. Many of the allegations were quickly debunked, such as a television crew confirming they were dropping off equipment in the middle of the night.
I dont. I was just pointing out that these things are being spoke about, rumours or speculation could be a part of decisions made going forward.
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Trump campaign to file lawsuit in NV claiming 10k voters who cast a ballot no longer live in the state - currently 8k difference but think the last motherload comes in at 5pm so I would've waited for that to come through first.
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Naffman wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:38 pm
Trump campaign to file lawsuit in NV claiming 10k voters who cast a ballot no longer live in the state - currently 8k difference but think the last motherload comes in at 5pm so I would've waited for that to come through first.
If I knew you had to live there to vote I wouldn't have voted in each state. :o
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Trump really going to go the whole hog on this and try to sue his way to a second term. Remarkable.

US making itself a basket case on the world stage.
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