Ascot today

The sport of kings.
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Atho55
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As a newbie to racing and trading I find it difficult to understand how a horse that is odds favourite often puts up such a dismal performance during the race. So I have embarked on building a racing calculator that I can use and maybe give me more of an insight. It is in the Beta stage and does not have all the variables plugged into it yet bet does give me an idea how fast a horse has previously run.
Looking at the first three at Ascot today and not wanting to put put myself forward as a tipster I have applied it to the first three races shown below in order of fastest runner of the horses listed (these deemed to be favourites) in the betting odds .

2:00
Firsty
Bam Bam Boom
Dark Flame
Midnight Cowboy
Whats the Scoop

2:35
Pinkie Brown
Adrien Du Pont
Berland
St Saviour
Ashoka
Oceane

3:10
Veauce de Sivola
Twelve Roses
Nexius

The attached screenshots show how I could have dutched the first two races using Bet365 odds last night on my own staking gadget.

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convoysur-2
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you know that betangel has built in dutching
and that prices are better on betfair than the bookmakers ,right ??
Atho55
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Yes, I use it regularly. Difference with my method is that the top position and its stake is Total Stake minus lower positions stake. Essentially not all returns are equal. The horse you think will win goes at the top.
Atho55
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Warwick 2:30 tomorrow in order of rating
Some Finish
Cheat the Cheater
Glendermot
Midnight Jade
Broome Lane
Maybe Plenty
convoysur-2
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Hi Atho
so its based on the fastest horse?
so do you use speed ratings for this and if so where do you take them from?
Thanks
Marc
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Crazyskier
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The more I try to find consistent Dutching strategies, the more I realise what a dark art it is.

Bizarrely I have had most (MONTHLY) success blindly dutching all horses with a BSP higher than the number of runners in that race. ie dutching every horse above 8s in an 8 runner race.

The rank outsiders that hit under 5s in play with surprising frequency allow my automation green up strategy to often turn a profit, even where the favourite or second favourite goes on to actually win.

As I said... a dark art...
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