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Kosi10
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Dear Bet Angel community,

I have a simple lay to back bot that I have running, and sometimes it doesn't trigger the offset to the backbet... Is this a problem others have been noticing? The bot is doing quite ok, except for the two or three mishits that completely ruin my ROI...

Hope anyone can help, thanks in advance... Kind regards, Kosi
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Dallas
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All the rules and options in BA work exactly has they should, if an offset isn't being placed there will be a reason for it

If you can post up a screenshot of the General and parameters tab of your rules file
and a copy of the Bet Angel log from a market when the offset bet hasn't been placed that should help narrow down the problem
Kosi10
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Thank you, the next time this happens I will not delete the rule in Guardian.. The result in my betfair account and the rules of the automation file aren't enough presumably?

Regards, Kosi
sionascaig
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Check your log, often a clue there.
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ShaunWhite
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Hi. Is it not being placed, or not being matched? The rules themselves won't indicate which is the case and your Betfair account only shows matched bets and cancelled bets, so that's the type of thing people are suggesting you check the log for.

I don't know the ins and outs of your bot (not a phrase you expect to hear yourself say now I think about it :? ) so it might be a case of the market moving away from you so that the offset side isn't getting filled?
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flavenge
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I'm having a similar problem with a L2B (not back to lay) bot I'm trying to put together.

The log is copied below. I also tried to upload the result from Betfair but failed - sorry. The result showed that Grand Slam Boy was correctly layed at 11.5 and backed at 17.5, but only the back bets were matched for Favorite Light and Tripp Wildcat. I don't understand why the back bet was triggered (i.e. the offset bet) when the initial lay bet was not.

I'm sure this has been answered before but I can't find the answer - apologies in advance but any help really will be very gratefully received. Thank you.

30/04/2023 20:53:57: Market is in-play
30/04/2023 20:53:57: Market has been unsuspended
30/04/2023 20:54:10: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.10 Lay bet placed on Favorite Light at 10.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547008016 ( Offsetting by 12 ticks with greening. Trailing Stop at 12 ticks. Place stop at 17 ticks )
30/04/2023 20:54:10: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.10 Lay bet placed on Grand Slam Boy at 11.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547008155 ( Offsetting by 12 ticks with greening. Trailing Stop at 12 ticks. Place stop at 17 ticks )
30/04/2023 20:54:10: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.10 Lay bet placed on Tripp Wildcat at 10.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547008153 ( Offsetting by 12 ticks with greening. Trailing Stop at 12 ticks. Place stop at 17 ticks )
30/04/2023 20:54:13: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.07 Back bet placed on Grand Slam Boy at 17.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547012588
30/04/2023 20:54:13: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.06 Back bet placed on Favorite Light at 16.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547012593
30/04/2023 20:54:13: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.06 Back bet placed on Tripp Wildcat at 16.5. Fully matched at 22. Ref: 305547012736
30/04/2023 20:55:11: Market has been suspended
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Dallas
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flavenge wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:13 pm
I'm having a similar problem with a L2B (not back to lay) bot I'm trying to put together.

The log is copied below. I also tried to upload the result from Betfair but failed - sorry. The result showed that Grand Slam Boy was correctly layed at 11.5 and backed at 17.5, but only the back bets were matched for Favorite Light and Tripp Wildcat. I don't understand why the back bet was triggered (i.e. the offset bet) when the initial lay bet was not.

I'm sure this has been answered before but I can't find the answer - apologies in advance but any help really will be very gratefully received. Thank you.

30/04/2023 20:53:57: Market is in-play
30/04/2023 20:53:57: Market has been unsuspended
30/04/2023 20:54:10: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.10 Lay bet placed on Favorite Light at 10.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547008016 ( Offsetting by 12 ticks with greening. Trailing Stop at 12 ticks. Place stop at 17 ticks )
30/04/2023 20:54:10: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.10 Lay bet placed on Grand Slam Boy at 11.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547008155 ( Offsetting by 12 ticks with greening. Trailing Stop at 12 ticks. Place stop at 17 ticks )
30/04/2023 20:54:10: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.10 Lay bet placed on Tripp Wildcat at 10.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547008153 ( Offsetting by 12 ticks with greening. Trailing Stop at 12 ticks. Place stop at 17 ticks )
30/04/2023 20:54:13: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.07 Back bet placed on Grand Slam Boy at 17.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547012588
30/04/2023 20:54:13: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.06 Back bet placed on Favorite Light at 16.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 305547012593
30/04/2023 20:54:13: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.06 Back bet placed on Tripp Wildcat at 16.5. Fully matched at 22. Ref: 305547012736
30/04/2023 20:55:11: Market has been suspended
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flavenge
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Superstar. So simple. Thank you
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