US Presidential Election 2020

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Derek27
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Democrats won the election, they should just stay away, let the Republicans protest, riot and get arrested.
wabash
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which states did the democrats win?

the courts will decide, not the malignant media.

I want to short walt disney stock, people are tired od Fox, their ratings will go to the tubes.


the media does not decide the elections
wabash
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The democrats are provoking a civil war, people are ready to restore the constitution.

Biden was losing state after state and they find unaccounted ballots.

The problem is that the Republicans want to put a false conservative, a globalist to replace trump.

Trump is the only hope that the USA steps away from the globalist agenda.

Biden has promised Nato that they are going to back in business, playing the world policeman.

Boycott fox news, they are betraying their constituents in broght day light, because they are now owned by Disney.
Zenyatta
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wabash wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:13 am
which states did the democrats win?

the courts will decide, not the malignant media.
Courts don't decide elections in democracies. Only in banana republics.
The court has no authority to disqualify votes. In the very unlikely event that Trump did somehow get a case to the Supreme Court, and the even more unlikely event that the court ruled to disqualify enough votes to swing the election, the court ruling would simply be ignored by Congress (which has a democrat majority in the house). The court doesn't have the authority to decide political questions, it's a separate branch of government.
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decomez6
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Zenyatta wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:57 am
wabash wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:13 am
which states did the democrats win?

the courts will decide, not the malignant media.
Courts don't decide elections in democracies. Only in banana republics.
The court has no authority to disqualify votes. In the very unlikely event that Trump did somehow get a case to the Supreme Court, and the even more unlikely event that the court ruled to disqualify enough votes to swing the election, the court ruling would simply be ignored by Congress (which has a democrat majority in the house). The court doesn't have the authority to decide political questions, it's a separate branch of government.


Fast forward, Trump chose a conservative Supreme Court nominee justice Amy Cony Baret(ACB) to replace the vacancy left by Ruth Gader Ginsberg, with one thing in mind , the presidential election.
He knew his plan B will be in good hands in case he looses the elections and therefore prepared for it.

The work of the Supreme Court is not to overturn the will of the people , it is to interpret the constitution and protect the will of the people.
The Supreme Court judges Are the life long custodian of the constitution .All politicians and security agencies including the military swear to Obey and protect the constitution and they only have a limited mandate. On the other hand Supreme Court judges are like ‘Kings and Queens’ they have a lifelong mandate ‘ till death do us part’.

Lady justice is blind and she is only swayed by evidence, proving a case beyond any reasonable doubt . The constitution is a living document and there are no enough laws that can fully capture the will of ,all people , all the time , hence the need to interpret the constitution .This is where judges differ .Some are very strict and conservative they follow the law to the letter. Others are more liberal and are more interested in the spirit of the constitution, which is hard to legislate but can be seen Through the eyes of the framers of the constitution , the so called forefathers. It is hard to legislate un intended bad consequences of a good law and it’s left to the discretion of a judge to make a call depending on the prevailing circumstances.
No judge ‘in thier right mind’ will overturn the will of the people if the result will cause more harm than good , that is , the law finds faults and discrepancies which are ‘ illegalities’ but justice demands balancing act of a common sense approach.

Bush v/s Algore is a case in point where the Supreme Court Served as a referee, and thereby unlocking the dead lock between two Sides that were only seperated by a 500 votes.

Justice delayed is justice denied, and it does not matter if you are telling the truth or not. What really matters is how well you can defend your lies. This is why you see Poor innocent people anguishing in jail while rich criminals walk Scot free courtesy of thier expensive lawyers.
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decomez6 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:08 am

No judge ‘in thier right mind’ will overturn the will of the people if the result will cause more harm than good , that is , the law finds faults and discrepancies which are ‘ illegalities’ but justice demands balancing act of a common sense approach.
Yes, exactly. A judge could make a bad ruling of course, but if it was seen as crazy, it would be fairly empty, and unlikely to be enforceable.

Any sort of on-going political dispute would be handled by the house and senate any way, and since the house is democrat, the Trump legal strategy has no hope of working.

It's time to bring in the men in the white coats for the Don :D

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 2987893762
jamesg46
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Zenyatta wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:53 am
decomez6 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:08 am

No judge ‘in thier right mind’ will overturn the will of the people if the result will cause more harm than good , that is , the law finds faults and discrepancies which are ‘ illegalities’ but justice demands balancing act of a common sense approach.
Yes, exactly. A judge could make a bad ruling of course, but if it was seen as crazy, it would be fairly empty, and unlikely to be enforceable.

Any sort of on-going political dispute would be handled by the house and senate any way, and since the house is democrat, the Trump legal strategy has no hope of working.

It's time to bring in the men in the white coats for the Don :D

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 2987893762
Its true that it would go to the House but I dont think it works how you think it does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_vote

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/states
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Zenyatta wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:50 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:12 pm


Don't forget Derek he is coming back in 2024. 😲
Trump ain't coming back. He lost the popular vote twice and was a one term president. Just too divisive. I think he was a product of a particular time and mood, but his time has passed.
Tend to agree.

In the U.S. 4 years ago, people wanted to be entertained. DT isn't/wasn't a politician, but he is entertaining, someone to laugh at/with. *SHOWTIME"

In the UK we also had brexit leave/remain. Leave looks fun, let's give it a go. "SHOWTIME"

The time has passed and we now need to hunker down and deal with the CV19 impact.
burntheory
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It would be interesting to see where the money went if Betfair were to put up a 'Number of Faithless Electors' market.
wabash
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Zenyatta wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:50 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:12 pm


Don't forget Derek he is coming back in 2024. 😲
Trump ain't coming back. He lost the popular vote twice and was a one term president. Just too divisive. I think he was a product of a particular time and mood, but his time has passed.
the United states of America are a Republic not a democracy, the German Democratic Republic was a democracy.

Democracy means commnism.
wabash
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communism
Archery1969
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Anyone know when they are going to settle the god damn market ? :shock:
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gazuty
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:25 am
Anyone know when they are going to settle the god damn market ? :shock:
Electoral college meets December 14. It would surprise me that they wait til that result - and I can’t see any other decision being made at that meeting than Biden.
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Derek27
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wabash wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:13 am
which states did the democrats win?

the courts will decide, not the malignant media.

I want to short walt disney stock, people are tired od Fox, their ratings will go to the tubes.


the media does not decide the elections
The courts won't decide, the people have decided. The courts will only change the result if there's convincing evidence of fraud or error that would affect the result.
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Derek27
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wabash wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:31 am
The democrats are provoking a civil war,
...by winning an election. :lol:
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