US Presidential Election 2020

[Trader Pat]

Since you guys are talking philosophy, as an interesting aside for you all, I actually cracked the meaning of life about a week ago.

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Essentially, all of reality is information, and both physical events and mental events are *composed* using complexity measures. Consciousness is the local flow of time in a complex system - time is equivalent to increasing complexity. So time is half objective (physical complexity - or entropy) and half subjective (mental complexity or knowledge).

The universe is still under construction, and we can manipulate the evolution of reality due to the subjective component of time as explained above.

The meaning of life is the golden mean between min and max complexity, a consilience of thought or 'joyous growth' achieved when engaged in tasks that are neither too simple nor too complex, but achieve the 'golden mean' of moderately complex.

The universe evolves towards its ultimate telos of the golden mean of complexity.

-Cheers

Universe under construction or is it self propelled?
Does zero 0 time exist?
if so where is zero time? is it subjective or objective?
Time is a navigational tool , it’s a way to keep track of the past Macro events. Jesus Christ died 2020 years ago. Your date of birth is a timer clock which stops on your way down five foot under.
Time has very limited effect in the quantum world, One particle appear in two places at the same time. Everything is connected to a singularity. This suggests that the universe in the quantum level has always existed and it has no beginning or end.

The meaning of which life? biological or quantum
... the meaning of biological life is a conscious self preserving genes cycle. A human life is a perfect example of eat , shit ,reproduce and die.
Evolution is an elimination process which help the organism to adapt and preserve the cycle in the most efficient and effective way.

Just thinking....

I think you need to get laid

[jamesg46]

Since you guys are talking philosophy, as an interesting aside for you all, I actually cracked the meaning of life about a week ago.

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Essentially, all of reality is information, and both physical events and mental events are *composed* using complexity measures. Consciousness is the local flow of time in a complex system - time is equivalent to increasing complexity. So time is half objective (physical complexity - or entropy) and half subjective (mental complexity or knowledge).

The universe is still under construction, and we can manipulate the evolution of reality due to the subjective component of time as explained above.

The meaning of life is the golden mean between min and max complexity, a consilience of thought or 'joyous growth' achieved when engaged in tasks that are neither too simple nor too complex, but achieve the 'golden mean' of moderately complex.

The universe evolves towards its ultimate telos of the golden mean of complexity.

-Cheers

Universe under construction or is it self propelled?
Does zero 0 time exist?
if so where is zero time? is it subjective or objective?
Time is a navigational tool , it’s a way to keep track of the past Macro events. Jesus Christ died 2020 years ago. Your date of birth is a timer clock which stops on your way down five foot under.
Time has very limited effect in the quantum world, One particle appear in two places at the same time. Everything is connected to a singularity. This suggests that the universe in the quantum level has always existed and it has no beginning or end.

The meaning of which life? biological or quantum
... the meaning of biological life is a conscious self preserving genes cycle. A human life is a perfect example of eat , shit ,reproduce and die.
Evolution is an elimination process which help the organism to adapt and preserve the cycle in the most efficient and effective way.

Just thinking....

I think you need to get laid

No time for getting laid... only time for research. Speaking of which I made it my mission today to find some undeniable proof that the earth is infact flat. Enjoy.

https://youtu.be/e5ACN9iF8Jw

[decomez6]

Since you guys are talking philosophy, as an interesting aside for you all, I actually cracked the meaning of life about a week ago.

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Essentially, all of reality is information, and both physical events and mental events are *composed* using complexity measures. Consciousness is the local flow of time in a complex system - time is equivalent to increasing complexity. So time is half objective (physical complexity - or entropy) and half subjective (mental complexity or knowledge).

The universe is still under construction, and we can manipulate the evolution of reality due to the subjective component of time as explained above.

The meaning of life is the golden mean between min and max complexity, a consilience of thought or 'joyous growth' achieved when engaged in tasks that are neither too simple nor too complex, but achieve the 'golden mean' of moderately complex.

The universe evolves towards its ultimate telos of the golden mean of complexity.

-Cheers

Universe under construction or is it self propelled?
Does zero 0 time exist?
if so where is zero time? is it subjective or objective?
Time is a navigational tool , it’s a way to keep track of the past Macro events. Jesus Christ died 2020 years ago. Your date of birth is a timer clock which stops on your way down five foot under.
Time has very limited effect in the quantum world, One particle appear in two places at the same time. Everything is connected to a singularity. This suggests that the universe in the quantum level has always existed and it has no beginning or end.

The meaning of which life? biological or quantum
... the meaning of biological life is a conscious self preserving genes cycle. A human life is a perfect example of eat , shit ,reproduce and die.
Evolution is an elimination process which help the organism to adapt and preserve the cycle in the most efficient and effective way.

Just thinking....

I think you need to get laid

My lay plan always end up with a lot more green nine months later..

[Trader Pat]

My lay plan always end up with a lot more green nine months later..

Sounds like you'd be paying a lot of commission with that strategy

[Derek27]

Since you guys are talking philosophy, as an interesting aside for you all, I actually cracked the meaning of life about a week ago.

---

Essentially, all of reality is information, and both physical events and mental events are *composed* using complexity measures. Consciousness is the local flow of time in a complex system - time is equivalent to increasing complexity. So time is half objective (physical complexity - or entropy) and half subjective (mental complexity or knowledge).

The universe is still under construction, and we can manipulate the evolution of reality due to the subjective component of time as explained above.

The meaning of life is the golden mean between min and max complexity, a consilience of thought or 'joyous growth' achieved when engaged in tasks that are neither too simple nor too complex, but achieve the 'golden mean' of moderately complex.

The universe evolves towards its ultimate telos of the golden mean of complexity.

-Cheers

Universe under construction or is it self propelled?
Does zero 0 time exist?
if so where is zero time? is it subjective or objective?
Time is a navigational tool , it’s a way to keep track of the past Macro events. Jesus Christ died 2020 years ago. Your date of birth is a timer clock which stops on your way down five foot under.
Time has very limited effect in the quantum world, One particle appear in two places at the same time. Everything is connected to a singularity. This suggests that the universe in the quantum level has always existed and it has no beginning or end.

The meaning of which life? biological or quantum
... the meaning of biological life is a conscious self preserving genes cycle. A human life is a perfect example of eat , shit ,reproduce and die.
Evolution is an elimination process which help the organism to adapt and preserve the cycle in the most efficient and effective way.

Just thinking....

I've never understood the meaning of life question. Words, paintings, stories and poems have meanings. Things that exist my nature but were never created don't.

[Trader Pat]

I've never understood the meaning of life question. Words, paintings, stories and poems have meanings. Things that exist my nature but were never created don't.

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-the ... f-14556539

[jamesg46]

Since you guys are talking philosophy, as an interesting aside for you all, I actually cracked the meaning of life about a week ago.

---

Essentially, all of reality is information, and both physical events and mental events are *composed* using complexity measures. Consciousness is the local flow of time in a complex system - time is equivalent to increasing complexity. So time is half objective (physical complexity - or entropy) and half subjective (mental complexity or knowledge).

The universe is still under construction, and we can manipulate the evolution of reality due to the subjective component of time as explained above.

The meaning of life is the golden mean between min and max complexity, a consilience of thought or 'joyous growth' achieved when engaged in tasks that are neither too simple nor too complex, but achieve the 'golden mean' of moderately complex.

The universe evolves towards its ultimate telos of the golden mean of complexity.

-Cheers

Universe under construction or is it self propelled?
Does zero 0 time exist?
if so where is zero time? is it subjective or objective?
Time is a navigational tool , it’s a way to keep track of the past Macro events. Jesus Christ died 2020 years ago. Your date of birth is a timer clock which stops on your way down five foot under.
Time has very limited effect in the quantum world, One particle appear in two places at the same time. Everything is connected to a singularity. This suggests that the universe in the quantum level has always existed and it has no beginning or end.

The meaning of which life? biological or quantum
... the meaning of biological life is a conscious self preserving genes cycle. A human life is a perfect example of eat , shit ,reproduce and die.
Evolution is an elimination process which help the organism to adapt and preserve the cycle in the most efficient and effective way.

Just thinking....

I've never understood the meaning of life question. Words, paintings, stories and poems have meanings. Things that exist my nature but were never created don't.

Of course they have meanings, meaning created by someone else's imagination, those things took vision to paint or write. You can spend your life being bamboozled by someone else's creation or you can simply create yourself. I have great admiration for people who have created great things, BetAngel being one of them but I'm certainly not going to limit myself to think that is the end of possibility... what a moronic way to live.

[Trader Pat]

Speaking of creativity I used to have an ex who was a photographer and the first time I went back to hers she said she wanted to show me something that she hadn't shown anyone before.

I was pretty excited at the prospect of what I was about to see but it ended up being a set of photos she had taken of padlocks.

[decomez6]

My lay plan always end up with a lot more green nine months later..

Sounds like you'd be paying a lot of commission with that strategy

Playing expensive hobbies with Fibonacci sequence leaves no room for blank shots mat My returns on investments are copies of mini me’s.The Greedy little buggers are eating with two hands.i wonder where that came from.

[Trader Pat]

My lay plan always end up with a lot more green nine months later..

Sounds like you'd be paying a lot of commission with that strategy

Playing expensive hobbies with Fibonacci sequence leaves no room for blank shots mat My returns on investments are copies of mini me’s.The Greedy little buggers are eating with two hands.i wonder where that came from.

[Derek27]

Speaking of creativity I used to have an ex who was a photographer and the first time I went back to hers she said she wanted to show me something that she hadn't shown anyone before.

I was pretty excited at the prospect of what I was about to see but it ended up being a set of photos she had taken of padlocks.

Here's something I've never shown anyone before.

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[Zenyatta]

Universe under construction or is it self propelled?
Does zero 0 time exist?
if so where is zero time? is it subjective or objective?
Time is a navigational tool , it’s a way to keep track of the past Macro events. Jesus Christ died 2020 years ago. Your date of birth is a timer clock which stops on your way down five foot under.
Time has very limited effect in the quantum world,

If you knew all the information about the system, from that perspective, there would be no time. It would just be a 'block universe', where all of eternity was laid out like a painting.

But from within the system, time flows, because of the enormous complexity of the system, you create 'summarizations' of reality , by choosing to divide up reality into ;parts: individual objects. So the flow of time isn't different from consciousness itself.

I've never understood the meaning of life question. Words, paintings, stories and poems have meanings. Things that exist my nature but were never created don't.

See above. Mind gives meaning to the natural world also. It's about finding goals to pursue in a positive way.

Consider a goal, and ask which goal is the most satisfying? Take trading. If your trades are too simple, you may consistency make small amounts of money, but it will just be very boring. If on the other hand, you choose very complex markets and take big risks, it may be exciting, but you will lose and be constantly frustrated, because you just won't understand what's going on. So the most satisfaction occurs when you are doing something at the 'golden mean' of complexity - not too simple and not too complex.

Now just extend the idea to the whole natural world. Treat everything as 'data' in a computer (information), and then every process you see happening will also have a complexity.

Both the flow of time itself '(physical complexity) and learning (mental complexity) have the same meaning: the balance between min and max complexity!

[Derek27]

Universe under construction or is it self propelled?
Does zero 0 time exist?
if so where is zero time? is it subjective or objective?
Time is a navigational tool , it’s a way to keep track of the past Macro events. Jesus Christ died 2020 years ago. Your date of birth is a timer clock which stops on your way down five foot under.
Time has very limited effect in the quantum world,

If you knew all the information about the system, from that perspective, there would be no time. It would just be a 'block universe', where all of eternity was laid out like a painting.

But from within the system, time flows, because of the enormous complexity of the system, you create 'summarizations' of reality , by choosing to divide up reality into ;parts: individual objects. So the flow of time isn't different from consciousness itself.

I've never understood the meaning of life question. Words, paintings, stories and poems have meanings. Things that exist my nature but were never created don't.

See above. Mind gives meaning to the natural world also. It's about finding goals to pursue in a positive way.

Consider a goal, and ask which goal is the most satisfying? Take trading. If your trades are too simple, you may consistency make small amounts of money, but it will just be very boring. If on the other hand, you choose very complex markets and take big risks, it may be exciting, but you will lose and be constantly frustrated, because you just won't understand what's going on. So the most satisfaction occurs when you are doing something at the 'golden mean' of complexity - not too simple and not too complex.

Now just extend the idea to the whole natural world. Treat everything as 'data' in a computer (information), and then every process you see happening will also have a complexity.

Both the flow of time itself '(physical complexity) and learning (mental complexity) have the same meaning: the balance between min and max complexity!

See above? I can't even make sense of it.

Life is full of goals, enjoyment, excitement, satisfaction, etc. But none of those have meaning. They are feelings. Life is an entity. It doesn't have or need to have a meaning.

[Zenyatta]

I think you need to get laid

But you can't do that all day every day. It's fleeting. And when you stop doing it, you're looking around for something else to do. And that's when you need meaning - to choose goals to pursue.

Life is full of goals, enjoyment, excitement, satisfaction, etc. But none of those have meaning. They are feelings. Life is an entity. It doesn't have or need to have a meaning.

See above about getting laid. The comments highlight an important point of philosophy - when fully absorbed in something, you need no further meaning. You are fully satisfied. But you are not always fully experiencing enjoyment, excitement etc. When we're not doing something, we need to choose new things to do. So the more inactive you are, the more acute the need for meaning.

So again, we seek the golden mean....

[jamesg46]

The meaning of life is simple... we are here to drink beer.

https://youtu.be/M1zrOQxMZEI