UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

[Derek27]

Sturgeon's performance on Kuenssberg highlighted how awful Truss is. The comparison was like a stateswoman compared to a blundering idiot.
I'm getting closer and closer to moving to Scotland.

She said she detests the Tories. Not a sensible thing to say or she could at least say she detests Tory policies.

Even I don't detest all Tory MPs, only the ones I've heard say more than five words.

[Archery1969]

Scotland will leave soon enough, followed by Wales and Northern Ireland. I think all within the next 5 years.

Be interesting with Northern Ireland as I can see that being a powder keg. Could end up a reverse of the troubles with the unionists shooting and blowing things up south of the border.

[LeTiss]

Scotland will leave soon enough, followed by Wales and Northern Ireland. I think all within the next 5 years.

Be interesting with Northern Ireland as I can see that being a powder keg. Could end up a reverse of the troubles with the unionists shooting and blowing things up south of the border.

No they won't.

None of them can leave without holding a referendum, and even Labour are showing no appetite for giving Scotland another vote.

As for Wales, don't forget they voted for Brexit. I have relatives in Wales, and there is very little support in Wales for complete independence

[greenmark]

Sturgeon's performance on Kuenssberg highlighted how awful Truss is. The comparison was like a stateswoman compared to a blundering idiot.
I'm getting closer and closer to moving to Scotland.

She said she detests the Tories. Not a sensible thing to say or she could at least say she detests Tory policies.

Even I don't detest all Tory MPs, only the ones I've heard say more than five words.

I understand the "dangerous" comment from Zahawi. In a climate where nutters feel emboldened to attack/kill MP's it was probably ill-advised.
But the main point was she detests everything the Tories stand for and that will chime with a lot of people right now.

[LeTiss]

Sturgeon's performance on Kuenssberg highlighted how awful Truss is. The comparison was like a stateswoman compared to a blundering idiot.
I'm getting closer and closer to moving to Scotland.

She said she detests the Tories. Not a sensible thing to say or she could at least say she detests Tory policies.

Even I don't detest all Tory MPs, only the ones I've heard say more than five words.

I understand the "dangerous" comment from Zahawi. In a climate where nutters feel emboldened to attack/kill MP's it was probably ill-advised.
But the main point was she detests everything the Tories stand for and that will chime with a lot of people right now.

If you go on Twitter, you'll quickly see just how many people in Scotland detests Sturgeon. She is a divisive, truly hated figure in Scotland.
The SNP have divided Scotland terribly.

[Archangel]

Scotland will leave soon enough, followed by Wales and Northern Ireland. I think all within the next 5 years.

Be interesting with Northern Ireland as I can see that being a powder keg. Could end up a reverse of the troubles with the unionists shooting and blowing things up south of the border.

No they won't.

None of them can leave without holding a referendum, and even Labour are showing no appetite for giving Scotland another vote.

As for Wales, don't forget they voted for Brexit. I have relatives in Wales, and there is very little support in Wales for complete independence

The breakup of the union will happen. Whether thats in 5 years or 30 years it WILL happen. Ironically it has been Brexit that has only served to quicken the process. The other three nations have finally realised that Westminster has no care for them.

Although I think that the UK will need to rejoin the EU before the UK breaks up.

[LeTiss]

I disagree. Brexit is only part of the issue with Scotland.

Don't forget, one of the first things Blair done as PM in the late 90's, was devolution.
Handing more powers to Scotland was done to try and arrest calls for independence, so this was happening a long time before Brexit.

We are not rejoining the EU. Even Starmer admits that a Labour government won't pursue this agenda

[greenmark]

She said she detests the Tories. Not a sensible thing to say or she could at least say she detests Tory policies.

Even I don't detest all Tory MPs, only the ones I've heard say more than five words.

I understand the "dangerous" comment from Zahawi. In a climate where nutters feel emboldened to attack/kill MP's it was probably ill-advised.
But the main point was she detests everything the Tories stand for and that will chime with a lot of people right now.

If you go on Twitter, you'll quickly see just how many people in Scotland detests Sturgeon. She is a divisive, truly hated figure in Scotland.
The SNP have divided Scotland terribly.

If Scotland is divided how come SNP have waltzed election after election with really only one core policy - independence.
There is no doubt in my mind that there is a divide between unionists and indies. But the ballot box is paramount here, if the unionists don't like Sturgeon/SNP then pick from Labour or Tory.
My sister lives up there and has flipped over to Indie mainly because she likes Sturgeon and feels Labour and Tories have ignored Scotland. Until elections come along and then they pop up promising but Scotland doesn't trust either main party. That's Sturgeon's ace card.
Only an opinon though.

[Derek27]

I've just had to make a purchase in dollars. Thanks a lot Truss & Kwartgeng, you've lost my vote!

[Kai]

I've just had to make a purchase in dollars.

Out of curiosity, did anyone ever have your vote?

[Derek27]

I've just had to make a purchase in dollars.

Out of curiosity, did anyone ever have your vote?

Even that flipping idiot Jeremy Corbyn, who wanted to give free broadband routers to people so hard up their electricity supply was disconnected had my vote in the last election.

But if I was considering voting Conservative, making a purchase in dollars, scrapping the 45% tax, increasing bonuses for wankers (I haven't received mine!), their indifference towards people on benefits, the crisis mortgage holders are in, their refusal to understand or admit that they had anything to do with the collapsed economy, and the deeds of the disgraced and loathsome former PM that would require an essay-length post just to give an introduction, that would lose them my vote.

[LeTiss]

If Scotland is divided how come SNP have waltzed election after election with really only one core policy - independence.

Because that's how FPTP systems work. If 46% of Scotland vote SNP and the other 54% are spread across other parties, there's only going to be one winner

[greenmark]

If Scotland is divided how come SNP have waltzed election after election with really only one core policy - independence.

Because that's how FPTP systems work. If 46% of Scotland vote SNP and the other 54% are spread across other parties, there's only going to be one winner

You have a point. BBC's Chris Mason reckons to turn a GE into a referendum the SNP could win every seat in Scotland and still not get 51% of votes.
More telling for me is how useless Labour and Tories are up there. Not too brilliant down here either!

[Archangel]

Scotland is not so divided. In the last general election the SNP won 48 seats. All the rest added together got 11.

I know the right wing media like to demonise Nicola Sturgeon , but she is the most effective party leader in the country. Liz Truss should take notes rather than refusing to speak to her.

[LeTiss]

Scotland is not so divided. In the last general election the SNP won 48 seats. All the rest added together got 11.

I know the right wing media like to demonise Nicola Sturgeon , but she is the most effective party leader in the country. Liz Truss should take notes rather than refusing to speak to her.

I repeat my point about FPTP.

In 2019 GE, SNP won 1.2m votes
The other parties combined had 1.5m votes

Those who didn't vote SNP absolutely despise them. Sturgeon is an incredibly divisive figure in Scotland