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Derek27
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 2:38 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 2:31 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 2:27 pm
[And even better they've said they are going to ...
Who's they, the government or the Daily Mail?

They actually used the words "could be".
Who's they, the government or the Daily Mail?
Both, I thought that was obvious but hey-ho
Labour have confirmed that the early release scheme forced upon them by the incompetent and irresponsible previous administration will not include jailed rioters. I thought that would be obvious, but the only thing that's obvious is that nothing is obvious to everybody. :)
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Kai
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ODPaul82 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:14 am
Do people not think their efforts are better spent researching new opportunities in trading then everything that goes on in here.

I get people have a need to converse outside of trading, but I'd personally spend my time being productive rather than arguing over immigration, etc.
Stop making sense Paul.

It's ruining the whole point of this conversation.

EDIT: In fact, how dare you be the sensible one in this circus with a clown for an avatar, frankly I find it both offensive and insulting.
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It's gone very quiet on here of recent, you can hear a pin drop :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLF-_Z8TK1k
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:53 pm
It's gone very quiet on here of recent, you can hear a pin drop :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLF-_Z8TK1k
Who'd have thought FFS is a Bjork fan. Never judge eh? I am glad we agree on something. :-)
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:09 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:53 pm
It's gone very quiet on here of recent, you can hear a pin drop :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLF-_Z8TK1k
Who'd have thought FFS is a Bjork fan. Never judge eh? I am glad we agree on something. :-)
And 'Don't believe what your eyes are telling you' :)
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:17 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:09 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:53 pm
It's gone very quiet on here of recent, you can hear a pin drop :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLF-_Z8TK1k
Who'd have thought FFS is a Bjork fan. Never judge eh? I am glad we agree on something. :-)
And 'Don't believe what your eyes see' :)
Can you explain for us all what you mean there?
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:21 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:17 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:09 pm

Who'd have thought FFS is a Bjork fan. Never judge eh? I am glad we agree on something. :-)
And 'Don't believe what your eyes are telling you' :)
Can you explain for us all what you mean there?
Sorry, haven't got time, but don't worry about it
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:24 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:21 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:17 pm


And 'Don't believe what your eyes see' :)
Can you explain for us all what you mean there?
Sorry, haven't got time, but don't worry about it
Not worried. I know that song well. I was baffled by your use of it in context. But no problem.
Enjoy your day, sir!
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Government Minister can’t guarantee rioters won’t be freed early due to lack of prison places and overcrowding.

https://news.sky.com/story/minister-una ... y-13195354
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:23 pm
Government Minister can’t guarantee rioters won’t be freed early due to lack of prison places and overcrowding.

https://news.sky.com/story/minister-una ... y-13195354
Prison capacity is not changeable. I see that they are likely to hand out serious sentences from the 780 arrested. 400 plus charged already. But the most serious will take time to convict. Nontheless. Releasing a burglar may seem appalling to some. Not to me. As Michael said if we adopted the Scandi approach repeat offending may well be lower. The rioters have made it inevitable that the govt would make room to lock them up.
The've melted away. The far right can't hide amongst a bunch of spectators/sympathatic coalition for very long.

The riot squad have been empowered by this episode. I really don't think the far right have anything to offer the general populace.
They don't believe in democracy so I cannot accept anything they say.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:46 pm
Prison capacity is not changeable.
It shouldn't take long to build a temporary prison. The army have to do it to hold POWs. We're just talking about a large cage with a roof, toilets, showers and sleeping quarters. Didn't take them long to build that hospital in London for Covid, and that was more than adequate to hold prisoners.
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Ukraine Forces are now 35km inside Russia.

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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:40 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:46 pm
Prison capacity is not changeable.
It shouldn't take long to build a temporary prison. The army have to do it to hold POWs. We're just talking about a large cage with a roof, toilets, showers and sleeping quarters. Didn't take them long to build that hospital in London for Covid, and that was more than adequate to hold prisoners.
You cant
just build prisons, even temporary ones because of existing planning laws and public objections. The current process takes years and who wants to live next to one. The plan was to build 4 more prisons but they are all stuck in limbo due to spiralling costs, legal objections and recruitment issues. The Army could through something up quickly but wouldn’t have the manpower to monitor. Plus you would get human rights lawyers bringing cases as to occupants well being etc.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:46 pm
The riot squad have been empowered by this episode. I really don't think the far right have anything to offer the general populace.
They don't believe in democracy so I cannot accept anything they say.
in truth, your own echo chamber can only exist in a vacuum. once pressure tolls from outside, suddenly, the noise, YOUR reality and more importantly, the understanding that you are transgressing societal acceptance all conspires to neuter any (imagined) solidarity..
Archery1969
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jimibt wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:08 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:46 pm
The riot squad have been empowered by this episode. I really don't think the far right have anything to offer the general populace.
They don't believe in democracy so I cannot accept anything they say.
in truth, your own echo chamber can only exist in a vacuum. once pressure tolls from outside, suddenly, the noise, YOUR reality and more importantly, the understanding that you are transgressing societal acceptance all conspires to neuter any (imagined) solidarity..
Jim, whatever you are smoking, injecting or snorting, can you mail me some ?

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