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Surprise, surprise ... there's a half a dozen boats just set off from France
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses
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"Still struggle to see why all this outrage over a relatively small number of "illegals" " ... sorry but that looked very much like "why all the bother, there aren't many crimes/criminals!sionascaig wrote: ↑Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:52 pmI didn't say that as well you know )
I would rather the gov focused more on "illegal" drugs & real criminals.
And by a strange co-incidence (talking about criminals) the majority (60%) of those arrested recently protesting about "migration" had domestic abuse convictions and a significant number had in their possession drugs or were high on...
Would be up for deporting that lot to St Helena for some re-education.
But to cut a long story short, I don't have a solution but Farage & the Daily Mail certainly don't have one either !
Peace be with you...
What is the ultimate source of your data re the background of those arrested protesting about "migration"?
Love to deport the wokey LL's to St Helena. Have you noticed the media always talk of the Left and the Far Right and never the Right and the Far Left!
The conservatives failed to stop the immigrants, Starmer lied he would stop them to win the election but Labour has failed to stop them. The (Far!) Left say Rwanda never worked, agreed, because it was never allowed to work. They also say Farage's plans won't work and they will do their best to make sure it doesn't work with their Rwanda like tactics. If you don't allow something you can't say it didn't work. If Haaland doesn't play this weekend you wouldn't criticise him for not scoring would you!
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Just do a search: riots domestic abuse charges - it was reported widely...firlandsfarm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:03 pm
What is the ultimate source of your data re the background of those arrested protesting about "migration"?
"Police data released under freedom of information (FoI) laws shows that 41% of 899 people arrested for taking part in the violent disorder last July and August had been reported for crimes associated with intimate partner violence.
For those arrested by one police force, this figure was as high as 68%.
Previous offences include actual bodily harm, grievous bodily harm, stalking, breach of restraint and non-molestation orders, controlling coercive behaviour and criminal damage."
==> Utter scum...
edit - and the point I was trying to make is that this sort of stuff (incl drugs) is way down on people outrage meter compared to a "relatively few" illegal migrants.. and I just don't understand why...
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Ahh, so here we go with the stretched truth incognito as a lie! So it was only 1 police force ... the 60% figure you quoted was not over the whole. BTW I did a search and couldn't see a substantiated 60% figure anywhere on the first two Google pages. So I asked ChatGPT and this is how it responded ...sionascaig wrote: ↑Fri Aug 29, 2025 7:01 pm"Police data released under freedom of information (FoI) laws shows that 41% of 899 people arrested for taking part in the violent disorder last July and August had been reported for crimes associated with intimate partner violence.
For those arrested by one police force, this figure was as high as 68%.
Previous offences include actual bodily harm, grievous bodily harm, stalking, breach of restraint and non-molestation orders, controlling coercive behaviour and criminal damage."
==> Utter scum...
edit - and the point I was trying to make is that this sort of stuff (incl drugs) is way down on people outrage meter compared to a "relatively few" illegal migrants.. and I just don't understand why...
"... previously been reported to police for domestic abuse (source: The Guardian)
Important caveat: “Reported” ≠ “convicted.” Fewer than one-quarter of those with prior domestic-abuse reports had ever been charged for those domestic-abuse incidents. So the figures indicate overlap in police reporting histories, not proven guilt in those earlier cases. (Source: The Guardian)"
Did you notice ... "the Guardian"



And I don't see anything in your quote to say it was only the anti illegal immigrant faction ... based on your separatist logic they could have all been from the "we want immigrants and we want you to pay for them" bandwagon! Oh and if I may point out (as did ChatGPT above) they are arrests, nothing about being guilty ... it wouldn't be the first time the police have 'enhanced the situation' perhaps to justify their jobs. But we know it's perfectly OK for the wokerati and immigrant population to protest but not for others. Maybe if the police spent more time investigating grooming gangs and less putting a tweeting mother in jail I would have more respect for them. It's about time they spent their time on violent crime and not tweets. A machete on the street will always be more of a threat that a few words.
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Either way, drug addled domestic abusers are utter scum. I hope we can agree on that.firlandsfarm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:19 pm
Important caveat: “Reported” ≠ “convicted.” Fewer than one-quarter of those with prior domestic-abuse reports had ever been charged for those domestic-abuse incidents. So the figures indicate overlap in police reporting histories, not proven guilt in those earlier cases. (Source: The Guardian)"
Try having a chat to a policeman or woman. They spend a huge amount of time dealing with drug related issues & domestic abuse. We can now add to that the violent rioters "many" of whom have domestic abuse "charges" and/or have been reported for said and /or off their face on drugs...
==> I hope we can agree on that wording...
But your point : "Fewer than one-quarter of those with prior domestic-abuse reports had ever been charged for those domestic-abuse incidents". That will be right up there with sexual assault & rape charges v's convictions. Just because they were never charged or convicted may be more to do with a failing of policing or terrified witnesses than "innocence".
I agree, the conviction rates should be much higher.
Domestic abuse
"In the year ending March 2024, 262 deaths in the UK were related to domestic abuse, including 98 suspected suicides following domestic abuse and 80 intimate partner homicides. These figures also include child deaths, deaths within other family relationships, and other categories like unexpected deaths and falls from height that were linked to domestic abuse situations."
Drug Related Deaths
In England and Wales, 5,448 deaths related to drug poisoning were registered in 2023
Illegal Drug Costs
In December 2021, the government estimated that illegal drugs cost society £20 billion per year, with drug-related crime making up nearly £10 billion of these costs.
The above barely gets a mention v's the hoo ha about some "illegal" migrants.
As I said, it makes no sense to me and your post didn't help clarify it in the slightest.